• CosmoNova@lemmy.world
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    Good, I hope they raise pricing too and pay creators even less. Make it hurt. It’s the only language users understand apparently.

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      What I find the most hilarious is that on a rooted Android phone there is an app that hooks into the YouTube app and eliminates adds in it. Even when my PC with Firefox and UBlock get temporarily blocked in the battle between Google and ad blockers my phone using the standard app still doesn’t have adds.

      I don’t know something about it is very satisfying to me.

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    10 hours ago

    u/Dangerous-Pizza7054 from the article,

    Seems like the user tracking “special promotion” overrides the premium. They don’t even say whether it’s expected or not. But my take away is that paying for premium may or may not show you ads, but you are definitely tracked and harvested for data. (Maybe even more so, since, well, you are more valuable to them.)

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      That has been my specific issue with paying for any Google product always. I understand when I am using a product for free that I am not necessarily the customer and that money has to be made off of me or the users more generally somehow. That’s “fine” (ish, not really, but that has more to do with issues of security than anything).

      However when I pay for a product or service, I want to now be the customer and I want to be in control of my data and have the company cater to me. If, when paying for a Google service, there was some legally relevant things in place that insured I was no longer being tracked and used to generate revenue via third parties I would gladly pay. Probably more than they are charging now, but instead they want to have it both ways which is just not OK with me.

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      Wait, I haven’t seen ads on YouTube Premium (yet), and I’m just now realizing this could very likely be because Google knows my wife and I don’t watch sports.

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      At least a subscription includes YouTube music? Isn’t that interesting and relevant.

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      I got the same Sunday banner in the middle of the screen similar to where shorts show up. Never in my life have I watched or cared for American football. Clearly a waste of money for the advertising company since I just closed it by pressing the x same as shorts on desktop.

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    If this goes live, I’m out. YT premium is my most expensive subscription, but I watch enough YouTube that I’m OK with it, especially considering that it supports creators more than ad viewers. If I still get ads? Nah dawg. I’ll divy up that money amongst patreons or whatever, and install add blockers.

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      If your main reason for paying premium is for ad blocking, I’d suggest just cancelling it now and using ad blockers. If you want to support creators, I’d say that it’s better to cancel and subscribe to a few patreons - I’d pick some of the smaller creators you like, to spread some of that support around a bit.

      If you use iOS devices for watching YouTube, look into side-loading uYou+, it’s basically an edited YouTube app that removes most of the ads. You can stream from your phone to the apple TV, too, also without ads.

      Not sure what the android equivalent is, but someone else will know - hopefully they will share in the comments also.

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        SmartTubeNext has been working fairly well for me for like 5 years or something. It’s super easy to side load on a Fire stick.

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        Reasonable advice, but I’d note that I pay for premium and patreon specifically because I can only afford patreon for a few creators. I’d rather pay everyone I watch. While YouTube isn’t perfect, I like the service enough that I don’t mind paying for it.

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            You can on any iOS device without jailbreaking. Look into AltStore or Sidestore. The caveat is that you can only sign 3 apps at a time, and must resign these apps every week - which is done over your WiFi to a PC running AltStore server.

            If you have a $99/year Apple developer account, you can use AltStore to sign as many apps as you like, and you only need to resign once per year.

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        Why don’t you just cancel it now and use ad blockers?

        Joel explains this in the second sentence: “I’m OK with it, especially considering that it supports creators more than ad viewers”

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          I mean you can probably support all the creators you like in other ways: Buying merch, donating onetime, signing up for a patreon, subscribing to nebula (if they are on there), …

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          Ah, sorry, that’ll teach me to read more carefully. Thanks for pointing it out <3

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        ReVanced is great on Android, it also enables other YouTube premium features such as picture-in-picure mode.

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          I used to use Vanced but switched to Newpipe, as it is noticeably lighter (also at least for me, downloads did not properly work while they were fine on Newpipe).

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    Grayjay on Android has been working damn near flawlessly for me. No clue if the parent company is to be trusted at this point or not- but I cannot argue with the results.

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      Were you able to import your subscriptions? I haven’t been able to and that’s all that’s keeping me on Premium

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        Yeah, logging in pulled across everything, as far as I can tell. Subscriptions included!

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      I’d never heard of FUTO. It’s been around for a year and I can find so little information.

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        I know Louis Rossman is involved. I don’t agree with some of his views, but as far as tech freedom goes he seems to have the right idea.

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    This is why I stopped paying them. Fuck them, you’re just an source of income to them.

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    Yeah I stopped paying for premium once I’d figured out using Safari on my phone with an ad blocker works with YouTube still lol

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        If you use iOS devices for watching YouTube, look into side-loading uYou+, it’s basically an edited YouTube app that removes most of the ads. You can stream from your phone to the apple TV, too, also without ads. You don’t need a jailbroken phone or anything like that.

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            It works in safari and you can block anything like ublock. Not dns. You could run dns on a server and run your iphone’s network through it as well.

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    It is just YT testing new exciting features, nothing to worry about.

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    Or sometimes it doesn’t let me play YouTube in a minimized floating way. Seems to be if I’ve been going back and forth between horizontal and vertical vids. Both normally allow floating minimized play but something about how they interact often leads me to having to force close the app, which loses me the custom queue I’ve been constructing. If the official solution is buggy…

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      With Alphabet, I treat anything related to delivering more ads as intentional.