• Nate Cox@programming.dev
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    28 days ago

    I don’t hate myself.

    I hate that enough men out there are such amazing assholes that it has created a generational issue which understandably has led to the assumption that as a man I’m probably an asshole too.

    I hate that women understandably see me in public and make assumptions about my risk factor to them because victimizing women is way too common place.

    Me, however, I’m pretty ok with.

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      27 days ago

      Unless you are an asshole, why would you say that you are asshole, if you aren’t sure you can ask. Statements like ‘I don’t hate myself, but actually I think that I’m an asshole because someone else is’ are somewhat conflicting.

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          27 days ago

          as a man I’m probably an asshole too

          Are you going to try to weasel out of your own words by saing that probably here means that you aren’t actually an asshole and you don’t believe you are?

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            27 days ago

            Cherry picking out parts to remove context is a pretty lame way to “win” an argument bro.

            Here’s that segment which doesn’t intentionally remove relevant context:

            … which understandably has led to the assumption that as a man I’m probably an asshole too.

            Which is—fairly clearly—saying that I understand why others might make an assumption about me.

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              27 days ago

              So you assume that other people think that you are an asshole doesn’t actually mean that you think that you are an asshole? It isn’t cherry-picking when discussion started with you generalizing about “men” being not_good by default. There is little that is understandable about such a position, have you tried not to have negative assumptions about yourself and other people that you don’t know?

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                27 days ago

                I really think you should go read the comment feed from the original twitter post. Don’t pretend to do it, actually go read it. Then read the rest of his posts. Then read the comments from many, many other men on his posts.

                Then come back and tell me you genuinely do not understand the complaints being made about men.

                If you read all that and still just can’t understand why so many women don’t trust men and generalize about them, well, I don’t think there’s any point in continuing this thread anyways.

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            27 days ago

            You’ve cherry-picked that out of context, they were clearly trying to say “other people assume that all men are probably assholes, therefore they assume that that I’m probably an asshole”