Honestly, the insistence that Lemmy has better discussions than Reddit. Mostly even popular posts have too few comments to constitute any in depth discussion. I won’t be going back to Reddit but I miss the vibrancy.
This platform is almost 100% idealism and politics. Any hobby/technical community goes completely inactive.
I’m left on the political spectrum but by and large y’all fuckers are over the deep end.
Tankies.
You can’t have a discussion about anything without some tankie blaming it on Ukrainians / the west / capitalism, etc.
“Oh you stubbed your toe on the table? See, tables are oppressive furniture of the bourgeoisie. The Chinese government wanted to make all tables toe-stubbing resistent, but that would affect IKEA’s bottom line and the pharmaceutical industry’s profits. I have a source from tankiepeoplesmagazine to back this up.”
Omg, so much this. So fucking annoying.
What’s equally annoying is people who won’t shut up about “tankies.”
Honestly, everyone across this argument sucks. But I wold like to point out, that not a single “tankie” has complained about anything in the comments here.
You, however….
this is a thread specifically for complaining about stuff you don’t like.
don’t be so butthurt about it.
The funny thing is that u/Pratai@lemmy.ca is in lemmy.ca which defederated hexbear and lemmygrad so he won’t see the annoying tankies.
Wouldn’t care if I did. Because I don’t care what other people are into.
Yea, I’m with you … the most “annoying” think about tankies is all of the noise about them as though they’re some degenerate scum bringing down society.
It’s not hard to move past a political opinion you don’t like, or a big and hairy political debate you don’t have time/energy for. But it doesn’t mean a whole bunch of people have to be shunned/exiled because they happen to trigger your inability to do so … or that you have to whine about their presence all of the time.
People who support the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the CCP’s violations of human rights ARE degenerate scum bringing down society.
I am never going to stop whining about their presence.
Shrugging off extremist views as “just a political opinion” that should be ignored if you don’t like it is like the #1 way to normalize and spread extremist views. You do not, and should not, politely ignore extremist. Doing so is explicitly allowing and inviting more into your community. Tankies can fuck off and I will continue to say so.
Well, the way I see it is that tankies are pretty much a minority without any power in the west, and, at least the ones I’ve seen around here, aren’t actively organising any sort of violent revolutionary behaviour or anything … which means their views tend to always be critiques of the powerful western governments and mainstream cultures form the perspectives of minorities, and often in ways that many in the mainstream find unpalatable, and therefore unconvincing. So, even if “extreme” (whatever you mean by that exactly) in some way, it’s a “punching up” kind of “extreme” that I’m open minded to hearing, however agreeable or disagreeable I tend to find their opinions.
Do you really think tankies are convincing? This thread, at least, indicates otherwise. So much “extremism” are they going to be spreading? IMO, the sort of “extremism” much more likely to spread is the sort of stuff driven by hate of some sort of “other” weaker and smaller than the mainstream as a scapegoat, not least because it’s more amenable to the worldview(s) of the larger and more powerful majority.
The “extremist views” I’m talking about is the support for authoritarian regimes that use draconian laws and excessive military force to enforce the law. Tankies often do support the subjugation of people they deem “lesser”, but unlike extremist on the far right, they often keep that part quiet.
The fact that you’re downplaying the extremity of Tankie talking points is a perfect example of how they are able to normalize their opinions by being allowed a voice in groups where their opinions should be shunned and shamed.
This is a great breakdown of the exact thing I’m talking about.. The video focuses on these tactics and how they are used by the alt-right, but this is not something exclusive to the right and is exactly what tankies are doing on lemmy.
I have a sense that the islands (instances) are concentrating/amplifying more extreme views echo chamber style. I’m sure it was there on reddit too… but I feel like I am exposed to more far right and far left viewpoints that are presented in a toxic/offensive manner on lemmy. It happened occasionally on Reddit but it is daily on lemmy. I am browsing All to find new content and not really liking what I find.
Yeah, I think it is a consequence of the nature of federation like you said (not saying federation is bad, of course)
At Reddit, everyone had to coexist and conform to the overarching group of admins and site-wide policies, whereas anyone on Lemmy, should they find the admins of an instance too restrictive, can just make a new instance that allows for whatever extreme they desire.
Thankfully, a lot of the major instances like lemmy.world seem to be closer to the middle- still biased one way or another, but not nearly to the extremes of Lemmygrad or Exploding Heads
I’m a socialist but the level of communism here gives me a headache. Wish I could block the whole hexbear instance
Some apps for Lemmy support blocking whole instances. Both Connect and Sync does.
Blocking hexbear has made my Lemmy experience much more pleasant
Start up your own private instance and defederate hexbear.
I would if I could but unfortunately I’m way too lazy for that
Lol not sure why you’re downvoted, it’s a legit concern. Running a lemmy instance is a lot more work than “just set it up once”
It’s really not. Run it in Docker on your home PC. You don’t need to moderate any users because you don’t need to have any users on your instance. It quite literally is “just set it up once,” defederate instances you don’t like, and occasionally upgrade the software like you do any other app.
That being said, a few Lemmy apps now support blocking entire instances, so that IS more simple than it was even a few weeks ago.
