• Mchugho@lemmy.world
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    This is how you get an ever rightward drift.

    I’m no communist or socialist, but it’s clear to me that Starmer is establishment to the core. He isn’t lurching to the centre from a pragmatic perspective, he is occupying the space he wants to occupy. The fact the media don’t fear him in any way tells you enough.

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      1 year ago

      UK moves from centre right to centre left fairly predictably. Thankfully the hard right or left never get the popular vote.

      Starmer seems quite boring but effective. I don’t have a problem with that. Popularism is much more dangerous.

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        1 year ago

        Effective at maintaining the status quo for the powerful. That’s the only reason he is championed as effective.

        You can want the rich to pay their fair share without burrowing into populism. At the moment what are they offering for an average person other than a red rosette?

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            1 year ago

            Absolutely not. It’s completely disingenuous to say just because Corbyn advocated for a specific policy then that policy is no longer workable due to 2019. He had problems that extended far beyond his manifesto.

            • Bernie Ecclestoned@sh.itjust.worksOP
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              And his problems were that he and his cohort were too far left to get elected.

              Same as Kinnock.

              Nothing more than centre left is electable, evidenced by the election results of the last hundred years.

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                Sure if you believe the Tory tabloid attack lines. Most of his domestic policy was mild social democratic thought.

                He got destroyed by the media and not for policy reasons.

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                    Well yeah, that’s why I don’t think he was very good.

                    But to say that a more media savvy yet actually principled leader would never work is just wrong, it’s never been tried.