This is mostly an American thing. They/we tend to be more entitled and very selfish. Often making excuses for bad behavior with lines like “I’m keeping people employed”. No stupid, you’re increasing our groceries because of your selfishness.
Now I live in Taiwan and have visited many countries and found out that this is not the norm. Most people care about the community their live in and oftentimes put back their carts.
Another example of American entitlement. Americans often throw trash on the ground in parking lots because the trash cans are too far away or they can’t find one. Again the same excuses, “Keeping these people employed”.
In Taiwan(and Japan), if you can’t find a trash can, you take your trash home with you. You actually have a hard time finding a bin in public here. But our streets are typically very clean. Because we care about the community and the people here are less selfish.
Where in the US? It’s pretty common where I’m from to put shopping carts back in their corral.
Issaquah WA which is an affluent area east of Seattle.
I also lived in Los Angeles and some of these people take the carts pass the corral and all the way to their neighborhoods.
I’ll take your work on Issaquah being affluent and blame it on that and LA is just LA.
Creating jobs for the sake of creating jobs is the stupidest anyway.
You absolutely won’t have the savings passed onto you if the store fires one of the cart managers. That’s the same logic as thinking self checkout makes store prices cheaper. Maybe if every store were locally owned it might work that way, but we’re far from that sort of system.
Nobody said the savings will trickle down to consumers. But best believe it will INCREASE if enough idiots do stupid things.
They didn’t ask for an example of American broken thinking but you provided it anyway because it’s another thing Americans excel at.
I return the carts and I don’t litter, but lets not lie about the effects of cart returning on socioeconomic outcomes. That’s bullshit and you know it.
And you’ll be heavily fined if you don’t carry your trash home. Personally I prefer public trash cans, especially when I’m visiting a place hours from home. That way I can enjoy being there rather than carrying soggy trash with me for ten hours. But to each their own.
Wow downvoted for public trash cans. What a microcosm Lemmy is. Not sure of what.
I countered your downvote with my lone upvote. Thanks for commenting.
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We are not encouraged to carry our trash home because of “fines”. We do it because it’s the right thing to do if you can’t find a trash bin.
I have carried my trash for hours before I found a bin. It’s the norm to do that and we even have methods to carry it more effectively.
Gross
No but really, I find that grosser than litter. Litter isn’t pleasant and it eventually gets into bad places like water, but I’d much much much rather a bunch of litter around than having to carry (many types of) trash around.
This is not to say that I personally litter on any but biodegradable stuff (apple cores ex), just that I can get it if theres no bins.
Gross? Are you taking dumps in trashbins or wtf?? Carrying basic trash (packaging? Plastic? Paper?) in a bag isn’t gross if done properly. But I do agree that having trashbins is just easier. It’s just that some places don’t have them (wildlife parks, mountains…).
This is why I always try and find a parking spot closest to a cart corral. People go crazy trying to get a spot closest to the front of the store, but ultimately your last stop before getting in your car should be at the cart corral. Yes, sometimes this means parking further away from the front door, but I have functioning legs and walking an extra 30 feet isn’t a problem.
someone has a job to collect them and unless the parking lot is even close to full there’s no risk for any vehicles getting damaged from a few dozen loose carts.
This person is a lazy bones.
Why is this such a thing people are obsessed with? Like there’s a billion things wrong with the world at every scale imaginable and your concern is the cart return guy has to walk around an extra 10 ft? There isn’t even consensus amongst the people who have to do the cleanup that this is bad. Just move on.
Or you could follow the basic signs that are written up everywhere and have the basic human decency of returning the thing that you took in the first place
what signs? Only a few stores have any signs explicitly mentioning where carts should go, it’s just typically common sense that it shouldn’t go in the middle of the road.
No, it’s every store. They have to. If they didn’t have the signs put up then they could be legally liable for any accidents involving free carts in the parking lot. By having the signs up they avoid that responsibility by putting it on you.
This really is just about basic common decency. The rest of us put the carts back because we still have some.
Oh you mean the liability signs? Yeah if you let lawyers near anything they will put up signs. Those signs just say the store isn’t liable, park at your own risk. They do that so if there’s a lawsuit they have better ground on which to force a settlement. The signs themselves aren’t legally binding, that’s a hilarious concept.
This is why you put the lawyers in the corner with blinders on and a nice heartwarming Hallmark movie playing so they don’t go crazy from a mixture of cocaine and anxiety.
No, not even those. The ones that literally say “Please put your cart back in the corral”.
Yeah and honestly why use a turn signal? They’ll figure it out when you turn. And speed limits are obviously set too slow because they assume everyone will do ten over, right? And there’s like a solid three seconds after the light turns red where there’s basically zero chance anyone will be in the intersection! Social cohesion, order and civic pride are meaningless. Move on.
Why do you think those are analogous? You’re telling me you genuinely believe that running a red light is analogous to putting a shopping cart in the wrong place? If you seriously think this: you’re deranged and need help.
Because we live in a society
I don’t take the cart out of the store anymore. I really can’t afford that many groceries.
Same, haven’t used a cart (besides Costco where I just can’t lift any product they have long enough to check out) in years. Well I suppose I haven’t been to Costco in years either but x >> y in this description.
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So I used to put my cart back all the time but then I found out it creates jobs for people that cant get a job. Some one getting out of jail living in a half way home can use these jobs to get out of their situation. I no longer put it back.
You’d have to be some sort of lazy bones to not do something so simple.
What an awesome channel
It’s a wonderful test for if someone is an ass.
Is this some sort of american meme that I am too rich to understand?
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That looks like British Isles Island #3 to me.
It is the first way to differentiate between decent people and ambulatory piles of garbage.
The litmus test for civility.
wowowow mister millionaires, who has so much money they need a “cart” to carry their things. I can only buy like 7 eggs from my salary, so I don’t have this kind of 1% problem, I can carry them easily in my hands
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You would take the risk to carry such a fortune in your mere human hands ? Bold
Look at Mr. Moneybags over here with his 7 EggCoin…
In b4 someone unironically tries to defend not putting their cart back. There’s always one.
Now there’s more than one and they’re running mental gymnastics to claim that pro-social behavior is simping for corpos. Special kind of entitled faux-leftism there.
One? Like a solid 10% of the thread wtf
I don’t have time for that. and someone else gets paid to do it!
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My husband wouldn’t put the cart away.
But he has cerebral palsy which made walking back to the car without the cart for stability difficult when he was shopping alone. He actively liked if someone left a cart in the handicapped hatch mark area because then it would be close so he could grab that going into the store and be balanced against it.
He did know it wasn’t ideal though, and I’d take the carts back when I started shopping with him.
Anyone parking in a handicap spot is the one type of person no one should judge when they don’t put their cart away.
Shouldn’t, but people absolutely do judge them! They also judge if they think you shouldn’t be in a handicap spot period. So many people get huffy when they see my (what appears to be) able body get out of the car then…oh shit, my visibly disabled husband!
People getting upset about handicap spots are morons. I’m sure there is some overlap between them and those who don’t return carts.
Sometimes I don’t put the cart in the corral…
I take it back into the store because it’s closer than the nearest corral. Or I take my bags out before I go into the parking lot and leave the cart in the lobby cart storage.
I’m creating jobs. When you push the cart you’re pushing wealth from the cart pushers to the CEO of Walmart.
The CEO isn’t paying that salary. It’s a cost of business. A business you’re paying for as a customer. All the customers pay a percentage of a nickel extra for shopping in a store that has a cart returner on the payroll.
I suppose ithe job pays badly and isn’t very interesting. It’s not something I’d waste my life doing. I wouldn’t want my kids to do it either. Actually I wouldn’t recommend it for anyone. Life has much more to offer than pushing carts all day.
So, congratu-fucking-lations, you’ve created a job that nobody ought to do and made everyone pay for keeping a sorry ass kid on poverty wage.
Ok, so you’d argue that by pushing the cart back, then you’re the one doing the same meaningless job for free. Good point, right?
But here’s the catch: Nobody ever needs to return a cart.
There are at least two ways to do this.
One: We can all accept that the cart doesn’t have a home to be returned to and just leave them wherever and pick them up at the same place. This is obviously the chaotic neutral way.
Two: Pack your groceries in bags in the cart after (or while) paying. When you push the cart back towards the car, you walk by the cart corral, pick up your bags and walk to the car while leaving the cart in the corral. It’s fucking magic.
Oh, first off to be clear the wealth is transferred to the shareholders, not the CEO (though the latter is often the former). I can’t recall if I was trying to be evocative by saying CEO, or if it was just a slip of the tongue. Skill issue.
Cart pushing might sound like a silly example, fair enough. Though here it’s important as a debate battleground for the reality of labor struggle, I really doubt customers pushing carts is going to decisively shift the balance of power & destroy western civilisation. There is also the fact that the people doing this work might not be aware of their interests, and might get annoyed by people leaving carts out. That does harm.
You’re right that in theory the externality is split between the customers & shareholders. However, in reality when the costs are reduced the shareholders are generally able to pocket the difference as profit, since customers don’t have access to perfect information about how they’re being screwed. In theory this is counteracted by the free market’s ability to produce efficient prices (competitors will compete). But in reality it isn’t: Look around. Everything’s going up. They’re taking it.
It sucks that there’s low quality work. But what do you think will happen if that work isn’t available? If someone had that job, they could pay for rent & food. Without it? They will starve. That’s what happened in the 19th century. They. Just. Died. We, fortunately, haven’t seen what that looks like because the west is broadly still protected by the social welfare systems built in the 20th. My friend worked as a Walmart cart pusher, without that job he’d have had nothing.
Edit: ok basically you. Mr Walmar, cuck chair
Idk. I put my cart back but I have heard an occasional decent argument why someone wouldn’t.
One of the biggest ones is a single parent shopping alone with multiple small children. I get that ideally the cart corral probably isn’t super far away, but leaving small kids alone for even a short period of time must be nerve wracking and not always safe depending on the area and climate.
Have had mutinies small children. Always put the cart away. Doors lock and children aren’t that fragile.
bruh, I was trained as a child to put them back, we would start putting them back as soon as our parents lift the last bag out of it
probably a hot take but if your child can walk by themselves, putting the cart back is definitely a doable chore.
There’s always one.
Confirmed, it seems one did. Sigh.
An unironic way to fix half of America would be to let minimum wage workers hurt the public. Give them all baseball bats and make it legal to go for the knees of people who don’t return carts, only one tap for people who don’t put it back properly.
fucking ALWAYS.
One time I didn’t return the cart at Aldi.
I still think about that a decade later.
Because that haunts me I always put the cart back no matter what
For those that don’t know you have to put a quarter in to use a cart and you get it back when you put it away which means there are never stray carts anywhere. People want their money back.
I look for someone coming in to give mine too, as do many others.
It’s worse than that. I shoved it up on the curb and left. Like you see at any other store.
