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Usually artists go on tour after releasing a new album, to promote said album. So of course they’re going to play new stuff.
The ideal for me is a good balance. Some new songs mixed with the classics.
Btw why is this. Why do i have to listen 10 times to a song before i start enjoying it? Some ofy favourite songs are ones that i didnt like for a while.
I’m sure it’s some psychology name to it.
Thinking through it from my perspective, it’s because we put up barriers with anything new.
First thought: “Does this fit with what I know this musician for?”
Second thought: “Does this hit the vibe or energy I want?”
Third thought: “What is the hook or thing that makes it memorable?”
If any of them fail, I immediately feel disgusted. Not to say I won’t change my mind.
A couple of years ago I was at an Asian Dub Foundation concert and at the end they played a fresh new song to the point the singer had the lyrics pulled up in his phone and rapped from that, because he wasn’t sure he’d not mess it up.
It was awesome and very endearing.
I like that a lot. Don’t know if it was a expensive concert but I like going to shows where the ticket price is cheap, and the musicians tell people it’s a work in progress.
I have discovered the objective of musicians is to create a popular enough discography that you never have to write new music again. It certainly isn’t their objective when they’re starting out, but any longstanding act pretty much plays a repertoire of greatest hits. They might throw in some “new” album stuff that nobody is interested in, people are just there to hear what they love.
It’s weird. I saw Wheatus perform recently and he did a bunch of songs I wasn’t familiar with. Then he played his most famous song, “Teenage Dirtbag”, that they made in like 2000.
The band is like grandparents age, singing a song about teenagers. And it was incredible.
I’ve been seeing a bunch of ‘80s bands in concert lately singing their bestof’s and some newer stuff. Of course they’re old and singing songs about young person’s lives. I don’t find the disparity between their age and the subject matter offputting. The downside to older musicians singing songs they made when young is that age keeps them from hitting the high notes or anything that’s too hard on the voice. They just can’t do it. The music and being there is still fun, though.
I saw an interview from a band talking about this problem. They said it was a tough balancing act. The people there live want to hear the classics and don’t want new stuff. But anyone watching remotely or watching the video later already has their favorite versions of the classics and doesn’t want to hear them again, they want new stuff. You have to do both and it’s hard.
Every loved song was at one point a new song tho
Nope.
Nostalgia good
New bad
Some tracks need a few listens to like them
Sweet Caroline has always existed
And never loved.
I know you’re joking, but clearly you’ve never seen it performed by a rando with a guitar in a nursing home.
For the residents, clapping to Sweet Caroline is the highlight of their day.
Not that there’s a high standard in nursing homes, but that song in particular seems to light the people up. Considering what hell such places can be, I can’t help but appreciate the heart-lifting power of Sweet Caroline.
I’ll listen to it on the radio a few times before I decide if I like it.
But I’m not there for the new song try out, I’m there to listen to the good stuff I already like
Why go to a show when the replay button is, like, right there?
My home setup isn’t quite on par with a live concert. If it was then hell yeah I’d just do that
Why complain? If you only wanna hear their old shit, this is a great opportunity to get another drink or rock a piss
Why complain?
Because you’re hearing less of the stuff you went there to listen to, would be my reason.
This comment sounds so entitled. If you just wanted a “top hits” list you can play that off your phone. Live shows are whatever the musicians want to do.
You think playing stuff off your phone is same as going to a concert? I’m sorry if it sounded entitled, the person asked why someone would complain. I just like to listen to stuff I like.
With my favorite band, every new record was “not as good as what came before”. But after getting used to, it got there as well.
I have concluded that familiarity brings a feeling of quality in music.
It takes a while to learn the minutia of what makes a particular song great. And the more complex and lengthy a song is, the longer it takes to fully appreciate it.
Yeah, people who can only get into the old shit just have a hard time letting go of the past. Live a little, friends.
(That said, there are some bands who peaked a long time ago, are going on reunion tours, and yeah, usually the new stuff sucks.)
Stone Temple Pilots was one of those bands for me.
Can’t confirm. Of course the first time you listen to a new song isn’t the same since you don’t know what to expect, but from then on you can vibe to it even better for a while since it’s new. I’d even assume this is the reason for the “repeat song” feature and why some people listen to a single new song for hours.
Dunno, I have a hard time understanding your perspective.
I’ve never understood this attitude but I also don’t see legacy acts. Why wouldn’t I want to hear a band’s new stuff?
People who go to concerts want to see their favourite singles and favourite tracks from the albums they already own played by the band who created them (or a really good tribute band). The concert-goer might also want to relive the past and feel like they did when they first heard that music. Note that you don’t get many youngsters going to see old bands when they do a comeback tour. Nostalgia is a really big part of it.
When the band pulls out a new song, it doesn’t touch any of those desires whatsoever. From the nostalgic’s perspective, it’s basically an ad break between all the good stuff, and people hate being pulled out of their reverie to listen to an ad.
Here’s a silly sketch from Big Train where they call this sort of thing out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1YNEtaHbzA
Speak for yourself. Being a part of the debuting of a brand new track is a huge part of the concert experience to me, and some of my favorite concert memories are hearing tracks from my favorite bands for the first time live before the studio version.
Last year drag went to a concert to hear a famous band drag liked. They sucked, they were too loud and overwhelming. But one of the opening acts, a local band drag had never heard of before, was amazing. And drag is a fan of them now.
New stuff is great!
This was me seeing The Watchmen for the first time in 1990. Holy shit, what an amazing band.
I missed Smashing Pumpkins when they were nobodies opening for Guns-n-Roses. GNR sucked balls, Rose was wasted and showed up 2-hours late, sound was unintelligible, all that. Wish I could have seen the Pumpkins.
You have at least a couple of things that make it not quite the scenario I described in my comment. Yes, warm-up acts are kind of an ad, but they’re the pre-show ad. People who watch movies prefer the “trailers” before the movie, not interspersed within it.
And trailers work. Sometimes. Lots of parallels with support acts there.
Secondly, the main band being terrible is not the norm. You went there expecting them to be good and to hear your old favourites, not their new stuff. Maybe you would have liked some of their new stuff if they hadn’t been hopeless at everything else as well, but that isn’t the main thing you were there for.
Drag has autism. Drag doesn’t know if they played new songs or old songs, it was too loud and drag left during their first song. It hurt to be there.
What. A drag?
They are talking about themselves in the third dragson.
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You have to be fucking kidding me.
Click “source” to read this wildly controversial post. Because “lawrence” doesn’t want you to read it and is so clueless he brought attention to it by removing it.
How about you go fuck yourself “lawrence”? Jesus what a pathetic little man.
See the Cheetos dust fly as his fat little fingers ban me from HIS DOMAIN for a “wrong” opinion.
Idiots like you will be the death of lemmy. YOU ARE HURTING US ALL.
Looking into the full logs he was banned for a uh, pedo comment in another post. They may have been joking but it was still gross.
Wtf
Nah, you had to see the post it was in response to.
I didn’t get a chance to screen shot it, but it was a six panel, about a guy that got rich talking to a friend about not knowing what to do now.
The friend gives a bunch of normal ideas like funding charities, and the rich guy in the last panel says, paraphrased, “I’ll fuck children”.
That’s what the comment was springing off of. It was saying the same thing, just more exaggerated.
Very much needed context, with that information he was just riffing off the post and the mods are big dumb. Classic lmao
I remember that comic, on that context is kinda make sense as a joke.
That was a funny one but I can’t repost it anywhere for obvious reasons
Yeah, it’s weird. You can check archives. The comment was just a standard comment about music. Mod seems to have a bug up their butt
What did the comment say?
Something about how new tracks at shows are a good thing.
Fwiw the post is up for me, not sure if it got reinstated
Not for me, guessing it’s a federation thing
Ok good to know. Im curious how that works, though
Counterpoint:
“This next one is the first song on our new album which just came out this week. It’s called Surrender.”
Cheap Trick Live at Budokan!
yeah but performing it right after I Want You To Want Me? It would be very “new vibe” if they recorded it in North America. (assuming that was an accurate performance order and not rearranged in post)
but the audience at Budokan? They’re going absolutely bonkers the entire time. It’s so great.
I want you to want me came out a year earlier.
yes, the studio recording of IWYTWM came out a year earlier.
On Live At Budokan, side 2 starts with IWYTWM, and then you immediately hear “This next one…” as they introduce their brand new song Surrender.But the meme is about being at a concert, not listening to an album. Live at Budokan is edited from their performance at Osaka. In that performance, “Surrender” came before “I want you to want me.”
The internet continues to be a humbling experience lol. I literally had this same thought when reading the comic, and I wasn’t even looking for it in the comments because I thought it was too obscure
“No talking! No new crap! Takin’ Care of Business! Now!”
I saw Bob Dylan in concert like 15 years ago. He played all new stuff except for the encore. I know these artists aren’t a jukebox but come on, man.
i yhink this has always been dulans MO
Streets of London!
Chevelle did this on their most recent tour. The album isn’t quite finished yet and, according to a podcast their frontman appeared on last month, they ended up reworking quite a bit of that song.
I’m excited for it, but Chevelle is one of my favorite bands, so…
