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      I came to say this. I have also noticed a strong trend amongst people from each generation for health.

      Teflon was introduced in 1938, when my grandfather was 11. In the 1955, when my father was born, is the last time that we have Teflon untainted blood from. At some point between 1955 and 1985 when I was born, Teflon proliferated to the point that it was being found in every blood sample around the world.

      So my grandfather lived ~40-50 years without being massively contaminated with Teflon, my father probably got to adulthood, and I have never been without it. Now an anecdotal sample that follows a larger trend. My grandfather is in his 90’s with pretty good health and is still going pretty strong. My father and both of his siblings are in their 60’s-70’s and all have failing health, and I know so few people in my own age range that are actually healthy without autoimmune disease or other systemic issue that I couldn’t fill a high school auditorium with them.

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        Not saying that there’s nothing wrong with microplastics or PFAS, but keep in mind there’s survival bias at play here.

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        I have seen the exact opposite as, aside from obesity problems, each generation I’ve seen has had significantly higher life expectancy than the last.

        I know multiple people now who have outlived the short life expectancy their health complications in the 80s supposedly gave them. I know a few families who have people living longer than anyone else in their blood line ever has. The heart and lung problems that killed off my grandparents have been dealt with now and my parents and my generation are already outliving them and far healthier at our ages.

        This is all thanks to great medical advancement, of course, but the point is this isn’t some dire threat that warrants doom and gloom, but another medical hurdle for us to be aware of and work out like we have all the others.

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      And they’re all full of microplastics, and we also all have a decent amount of lead.

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          Yes, by either raising your own farm animals, buying dairy and meat products from known and truly eco producers or going vegan. The last option, though, might get you into another category of chemicals and/or GMOs if you don’t carefully select the products and categories based on labeling and nutritional values and knowledge

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        Scientists are still learning about the effects of PFAS on humans, but studies show these chemicals can harm different systems in the body.

        The Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry says exposure to PFAS may lead to higher risk for kidney or testicular cancer, increased cholesterol levels, and damage to the liver and immune system.

        My hospital sent an email out that for unknown reasons liver disease is on the rise for non drinkers and people without diabetes.

        https://www.sciencenews.org/article/pfas-forever-chemicals-health-risk-water

        https://www.npr.org/2022/06/22/1106863211/the-dangers-of-forever-chemicals

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          Well it also looks like PFAS is a big group of chemicals, and brand name Teflon now uses a specific version called PTFE which they (can you trust them?) claim is not as bad as PFAS.

          But even if that’s true, the production of it still produces tons of known toxic waste.

          Ya know… I think my original notion I got from Johnny Harris…. Whom I’ve actually grown a bit skeptical of lately.

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            I switched over to ceramic pans, specifically the Ayesha Curry ones, but who knows if that will be bad in the future. I tried the Caphalon ceramic and those were horrible. The nonstick pans are bad for you over a certain temperature where it breaks down. There’s an excellent movie called Dark Waters about the original lawsuit and that man is a hero.

            https://m.imdb.com/title/tt9071322/

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          You seem to know this so I’ll ask. Are all non stick pans PFAS? If not, how to tell if it’s a good one?

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            Ceramic pans are non stick as well as properly seasoned cast iron, neither of which uses Teflon.

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        Yeah teflon is most dangerous for the people manufacturing it, and not really for people using teflon products. It’s not unhealthy to wear a watch with radium dials, but you don’t want to be the lady who painted said dial

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        The problem is that it’s so inert, it becomes impossible to remove from a contaminated environment or particularly a person’s blood stream.

        The amount that inevitably gets caught in your blood will just stay in your body forever, settling down in a critical organ like your brain or kidneys and giving you cancer or some other horrible problem.