I really don’t get how opinions on intellectual property and its “theft” turn 180 whenever AI is mentioned.


if the visitor IP resolves to Denmark
That’s where the trouble starts. IPs don’t resolve to any jurisdiction.
There are services that will guess your location based on the IP. That works fairly well in Europe because people have done the detective work to figure out where in the world the servers using certain IPs are physically located. Kinda funny.


Surely not. Forget about the economy. Just indoctrinate the youth and impose strict censorship. It’s the secret of the success of the Soviet Union. BTW Have they conquered the world by now? I stopped following the news in the 1980s.


Huh. I thought it was weed doing those things.


I don’t really understand technology,
The wise person knows that they know nothing. I’d like to unironically tap into that wisdom. My problem is that I do understand technology, and I have a hard time understanding what people expect such laws to do.
How do you feel such laws relate to the Fediverse and Lemmy in particular?


It’s weird, seeing this praised on Lemmy.
I’m wondering if the Fediverse has a future in Europe as such laws spread.
Unhidden variables theory? Oh, please …
I know in which hole the alcohol goes. I also know in which hole the young men go, at least according to “missionaries”. Which leaves one hole for god, which also happens to be the one that people recommend when Jehovah’s Witnesses bother them.
As a man of the world, I know, of course, that the god hole can also be fruitfully used for/by alcohol and young men, implying that Kayleigh was quite fun at parties. “Outnumbered”, indeed.
If you’ve ever felt like some overly religious person was acting like they have a stick up their ass. Well, now you know.


Normally, criminal laws apply only within a country’s territory, with a limited list of exceptions. Attempting to prosecute citizens of another country for something they legally did in their home country is a breach of international norms. It’s not just that it is hard to prosecute, it really gets you into trouble with the other country.
I checked Italy’s penal code and it does not seem an exception, despite the imperial origins. (BTW. It is a serious embarrassment. Is it so hard to remove just the overt fascism?)
Actually, I do remember the Italian state attempting to enforce some ill-considered IP laws against German company Ravensburger a few years ago. That wasn’t a criminal case but the state did want money. Of course, that went nowhere outside of Italy.
A pre-internet equivalent to running a website could be running a telephone hotline, or a mail-order bookstore. Maybe the bookstore sells banned books or media. The hotline may talk about forbidden subjects. Perhaps another equivalent could be a TV or radio station that intentionally broadcasts across borders, like Radio Free Europe.
I don’t think anyone ever considered trying to fine someone in another country over this.


I don’t want to argue, I just want to know. You feel it’s always been like that. And you feel that way because that’s been your experience with Amazon. Would you agree to that summary?
What is your intuition about the technological background? When someone sets up a website, what do they have to do or not do, so that it is visible in the UK, Italy, … ?


I don’t think I get the point. Amazon’s branches in Europe are like any other European companies that happen to be owned by an American company. They own and operate warehouses, trucks, “lockers”, and employ a lot of people.
I know that a lot of illegal goods are intercepted at the border. Products that fail to meet standards, even counterfeit brand name products, … I’ve never heard about the EU trying to prosecute the sellers that mail these products.
ETA: Anyway, I don’t want to argue, I just want to know. You feel it’s always been like that. And you feel that way because that’s been your experience with Amazon. Would you agree to that summary?
What is your intuition about the technological background? When someone sets up a website, what do they have to do or not do, so that it is visible in the UK, Italy, … ?


Now, I suppose you would agree that Amazon US cannot sell me (in Italy) an item that was not legal here, like gun, am I correct ?
If you, being in Italy, caused an American to send a gun from the US to Italy, I believe Italy would prosecute you for gun smuggling. It would confiscate and possibly destroy the contraband. But I don’t think they would try to prosecute the American. I’ve never heard of such a thing.
Do you think maybe feelings on such matters are changing?


To be clear: You are in good company with that attitude. Lawmakers seem to view things the same way as you. I’m just trying to learn more about how that view comes about.


The Atlantikwall was Nazi fortifications meant to repel the D-Day landings. I thought I would get some crap over that, but I do love dark humor. Your comment is just not what I expected, at all.


Fire limes has a nice ring to it.


Hmm. Reference not clear enough. I wouldn’t have got it without the link. But I do like the idea of calling it the Maginot line of the internet.


What does it mean to offer a service in country?


You feel that 4chan is in the UK. Can you explain how that feeling comes about?


Really? That’s what you find inappropriate?
“Property is theft.”