They’ve attacked us in the past, they’ve promised to attack us again applies to a lot of countries. If we bombed all of them we’d be embroiled in countless wars across multiple continents with no exit strategy and no real objective besides revenge. Do you think multiple forever wars is a vote winner?
Let’s switch from Israel, even though your description applies to them, and look at one of our traditional enemies, the taliban. Do you think a majority of Americans would be for bombing apartment buildings in Afghanistan again because of a threat? No, because they’ve seen this play out before and it doesn’t end well.
How would you justify leaving Afghanistan in the first place with this logic? The taliban still exist, and still threaten us and have killed a lot more then the houthis. Was finally leaving them alone a vote loser, or was it the stated policy of the last two winning presidential campaigns?
Ask your average American who was killed by the houthis, Iran etc. And they wouldn’t know. If these were the ultra patriotic people dead set on avenging their honor and voting out any politician trying to stop them, the names of those martyrs would be on everyone’s tongue. If you ask a Palestinian or Israeli who the other side has killed they’d rattle off a dozen names and go on a tirade of how evil the other side is, that is a people who want war. Americans don’t really care about the houthis and dont really want war.
The average person doesn’t care about this. Show me an article outside of fox News calling for this strike. Show me a viral social media post calling for whoever this guy was to be killed. Show me a protest calling for harsh treatment of terrorists. Show me people cheering for the justice this strike has brought after the fact.
Hell, Show me a post you made before this complaining about the houthis and how America needs to act.
No one was asking for this, and no one would’ve noticed if we didn’t do it.
My position of not bombing the houthis after they made a threat? No one has explicitly made that stance, but outside of the chud group chat no one was calling for this strike either. Because nobody cares, so we can assume they would be fine with letting the threat go and focusing on other things. If they weren’t fine with “letting the terrorist get away with it” they wouldve said so.
If your asking about non-interventionism in general that’s a common belief most left leaning politicians have that aren’t captured by the military industrial complex. Bernie sanders supports limiting our drone program.
“What you can argue is that there are times and places where drone attacks have been effective,” he added.
“There are times and places where they have been absolutely counter-effective and have caused more problems than they have solved. When you kill innocent people, what the end result is that people in the region become anti-American who otherwise would not have been.”
I don’t think he would approve of bombing an apartment complex to kill a couple houthis. But who cares what he says, he’s just one of the most popular democrats out there right now and leading rallies with 10s of thousands of people in attendance.
Ffs, did you read my comment, I never said Bernie supported the houthis, I said he’s against bombing an apartment building to kill one houthi. I don’t support the houthis, I wish another group was in power in Yemen, but bombing them, as Saudi Arabia has shown, won’t lead to that and just further entrenches them.
If you want to get rid of the houthis, leave them alone. Let there shitty government collapse under the weight of its incompetency, corruption and unpopularity. Let the people focus on how shitty they are instead of letting them point to the US and Israel and how many muslims we’ve killed and recruit even more people to fight the west.
You don’t support the Houthis, but you assert they’re doing the right thing by attacking international shipping to spite Israel, don’t think we should do anything to stop them and that we should let them get away with attacking us.
Wtf kind of George Bush “you’re with us or against us” logic is this. Just because you don’t support BOMBING APARTMENT BUILDINGS to kill one person doesn’t mean you support there cause. Do you support Israel and there genocide because you don’t want to bomb the knesset to try and stop it? Are all the people calling for a ceasefire hamas supporters because they don’t want to do everything it takes to destroy hamas after Oct 7th?
I never said they’re doing the right thing by attacking international shipping, I think they should be more targeted and only go after Israeli arms shipments, but should let neutral countries pass.
I do think we should do something to stop them, by stopping arms shipments to israel and pushing them towards a ceasefire. You don’t seem to support anything to stop them, because again these bombings don’t stop them. The houthis stopped attacking ships during the ceasefire, they didn’t stop attacking them after we bombed them multiple times, one method has been shown to work, while the other has been shown to only help arms sales and houthi recruitment.
They’ve attacked us in the past, they’ve promised to attack us again applies to a lot of countries. If we bombed all of them we’d be embroiled in countless wars across multiple continents with no exit strategy and no real objective besides revenge. Do you think multiple forever wars is a vote winner?
Let’s switch from Israel, even though your description applies to them, and look at one of our traditional enemies, the taliban. Do you think a majority of Americans would be for bombing apartment buildings in Afghanistan again because of a threat? No, because they’ve seen this play out before and it doesn’t end well.
How would you justify leaving Afghanistan in the first place with this logic? The taliban still exist, and still threaten us and have killed a lot more then the houthis. Was finally leaving them alone a vote loser, or was it the stated policy of the last two winning presidential campaigns?
Ask your average American who was killed by the houthis, Iran etc. And they wouldn’t know. If these were the ultra patriotic people dead set on avenging their honor and voting out any politician trying to stop them, the names of those martyrs would be on everyone’s tongue. If you ask a Palestinian or Israeli who the other side has killed they’d rattle off a dozen names and go on a tirade of how evil the other side is, that is a people who want war. Americans don’t really care about the houthis and dont really want war.
Your comparison is wrong because we aren’t occupying Yemen.
The average person does not want us to bow and scrape before terrorists.
The average person doesn’t care about this. Show me an article outside of fox News calling for this strike. Show me a viral social media post calling for whoever this guy was to be killed. Show me a protest calling for harsh treatment of terrorists. Show me people cheering for the justice this strike has brought after the fact.
Hell, Show me a post you made before this complaining about the houthis and how America needs to act.
No one was asking for this, and no one would’ve noticed if we didn’t do it.
Show me five people who support your position that have won elections in the United States.
My position of not bombing the houthis after they made a threat? No one has explicitly made that stance, but outside of the chud group chat no one was calling for this strike either. Because nobody cares, so we can assume they would be fine with letting the threat go and focusing on other things. If they weren’t fine with “letting the terrorist get away with it” they wouldve said so.
If your asking about non-interventionism in general that’s a common belief most left leaning politicians have that aren’t captured by the military industrial complex. Bernie sanders supports limiting our drone program.
I don’t think he would approve of bombing an apartment complex to kill a couple houthis. But who cares what he says, he’s just one of the most popular democrats out there right now and leading rallies with 10s of thousands of people in attendance.
Bernie Sanders does not support the Houthis.
Ffs, did you read my comment, I never said Bernie supported the houthis, I said he’s against bombing an apartment building to kill one houthi. I don’t support the houthis, I wish another group was in power in Yemen, but bombing them, as Saudi Arabia has shown, won’t lead to that and just further entrenches them.
If you want to get rid of the houthis, leave them alone. Let there shitty government collapse under the weight of its incompetency, corruption and unpopularity. Let the people focus on how shitty they are instead of letting them point to the US and Israel and how many muslims we’ve killed and recruit even more people to fight the west.
You don’t support the Houthis, but you assert they’re doing the right thing by attacking international shipping to spite Israel, don’t think we should do anything to stop them and that we should let them get away with attacking us.
Right.
Wtf kind of George Bush “you’re with us or against us” logic is this. Just because you don’t support BOMBING APARTMENT BUILDINGS to kill one person doesn’t mean you support there cause. Do you support Israel and there genocide because you don’t want to bomb the knesset to try and stop it? Are all the people calling for a ceasefire hamas supporters because they don’t want to do everything it takes to destroy hamas after Oct 7th?
I never said they’re doing the right thing by attacking international shipping, I think they should be more targeted and only go after Israeli arms shipments, but should let neutral countries pass.
I do think we should do something to stop them, by stopping arms shipments to israel and pushing them towards a ceasefire. You don’t seem to support anything to stop them, because again these bombings don’t stop them. The houthis stopped attacking ships during the ceasefire, they didn’t stop attacking them after we bombed them multiple times, one method has been shown to work, while the other has been shown to only help arms sales and houthi recruitment.