• DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    15 hours ago

    voted Dem for years as they continued to be ineffectual and handed our country to the fucking fascists

    1. If you bothered to actually pay attention and do things like look up the voting history of both parties. Bills that they’ve passed. Then you’d be aware that the Democrat party is NOWHERE NEAR as ineffectual as the Republican party. To call Dems ineffectual when we’re in the midst of what we’re in right now, when mere months ago we had stability, professionalism, and a strong economy under the Dems, is simply disingenuous.

    2. No one but American voters handed our country to fucking fascists. It’s up to American voters to responsibly inform themselves and vote responsibly. Blaming Dems for the failure of American voters is also disingenuous.

    • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
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      1. I’m certainly no republican lmfao but to say America was stable and great under Biden is a bit silly, obviously it’s not the same level as now because Trump is a lunatic, you’re just comparing Republicans vs Democrats, whereas I’m specifically saying the democrats already don’t do nearly enough.

      2. I mean, more stayed home then voted as per usual, they were literally going against Trump and managed to lose. Do you wonder why they aren’t winning over voters? It’s because they aren’t doing enough to move the needle in a positive direction, so people become disillusioned, we need a strong progressive leader like Bernie who is more willing to fight against the established ghouls in the democratic party who are just as corrupt as the Republicans.

      I don’t know what more I can say then we can have better if the democrats actually wanted to fight for the things they campaigned on instead of a majority of them doing the bare minimum to stay elected and keep getting that lobbyist cash.

      • HelixDab2@lemm.ee
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        to say America was stable and great under Biden is a bit silly,

        Jesus, people have such a short attention span.

        Covid-19 fucked the economy hard. It was really, really bad. That started under Trump, and Biden was trying to pick up the pieces. By the time Trump was elected, the foundation had been restored. I don’t know how much you paid attention, but economists had been talking about how we were going to have a hard landing, that we were going to have a recession, because of all the money that had been handed out by Biden to stem the economic tide caused by covid-19… And then, the summer before the election, economists were saying, huh, maybe everything is going to be fine after all.

        Does that mean that things didn’t suck for a lot of people as housing prices went through the roof? No. But it meant that labor markets were tight, and a lot of people could hop jobs to get better pay. (Not everyone, but a lot of people.)

        Going back to 2008, we had the same thing; the housing bubble popped under Dubya, and took the economy with it. (That, BTW, is why I couldn’t get a job related to my degree; I graduated in the middle of that, and there were no jobs to be had in my field.) Obama spent eight years as president trying to get things back on track with the policies that he could control. And, by the time Trump was elected, most people were doing a lot better than they had been doing at the height of the recession. Bush had inherited a booming economy and an enormous budget surplus from Clinton; he absolutely tanked it with deregulation and tax cuts. Clinton, in turn, took a relatively stagnant economy from Bush Sr., and oversaw it getting turned around.

        We keep having this same fucking cycle, and we’ve been having it for at least fifty fucking years now. People can’t remember anything past two years ago, and so they vote for the fucking morons that keep shitting the bed on the economy, or they sit it out because they don’t think their vote matters, or vote 3rd party because they don’t understand how voting works in the US.