• AbsentBird@lemm.ee
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      7 days ago

      If it would keep trump out of office for another four years it would make the odds of him ever regaining power vanishingly small; he’d be in his mid eighties in the next election, and all the lawsuits against him wouldn’t have been thrown out.

      Say what you will about Biden, but he was pretty effective at pausing the slide into fascism. He strengthened ties with our allies and invested in infrastructure. If Harris had won we could have taken back the Supreme Court and actually started reversing course.

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        Trump isn’t the problem. He’s too stupid and too old to have planned enough or worked hard enough to accomplish the things he has.

        Fascism was happening in the US regardless of if it was wrapped in a golden toilet or not.

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          Well it relied on trump being in power to take effect. Having a useful idiot in the executive opens a lot of doors. I don’t see how the Republicans could seize power without him, Vance wasn’t ever going to win on his own.

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            It just takes someone popular. Under Bush jr, Biden’s patriot act was passed and brought the US into the early stages of outright fascism. Under Obama state and corporate power fully combined when people had to start paying corporations for the right to have healthcare or be fined. Under trump this all has only expanded.

            Fascists don’t need a useful idiot, they just need someone popular. And guess what’s just a popularity contest?

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        Say what you will about Biden, but he was pretty effective at pausing the slide into fascism

        He literally welcomed the fascist fuck in with open arms. He didn’t do shit to slow facism and it will be his legacy

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          You think he should’ve refused to hand over the presidency? How exactly do you think that would’ve gone down?

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            He could have not had a nice tea time with him, for one

            Or had him killed, or pointed out that Trump literally has no legal right to the office

            anything other than “oh hey Mr fascist welcome in let me take your coat and serve you food” like seriously?

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            About as well as Jan. 6th. I can’t believe the country just forgot about that too.

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        Say what you will about Biden

        I held my nose voting for him, but Biden was the best president of my lifetime.