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    My guess is that this experience is very true in suburban North America where you need to drive everywhere and commerical real estate is usually a strip mall. In cities it is very common for lower level of condo towers to have shops and things.

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      In cities it is very common for lower level of condo towers to have shops and things.

      In cities, it is very common for everywhere except for the actual downtown core to not be condo towers at all in the first place, and instead be mostly single-family homes.

      Yes, in cities-proper. Not just whole metro areas including suburbs and exurbs; even the core cities themselves are mostly single-family.

      For example, here’s the City of Atlanta (not Metro Atlanta; just the core city in the middle of the metro area):

      The entire light-yellow area is only single-family houses. (Note: using light yellow for single-family zoning is a common convention among city planners, so all the maps below are going to use that color scheme too.)


      Here’s Los Angeles:


      Here’s Austin, TX:


      I could go on all day. There are only a tiny handful of cities in the United States that aren’t like this.

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      Not even that. I have lived in various small town and suburbs around Indiana and Tennessee. They’re really common here. Almost every small town’s main square is surrounded by mixed use buildings and mixed use condos are not uncommon either, especially the closer you get to urban areas.

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        Almost every small town’s main square is surrounded by mixed use buildings

        Pick any of those towns and actually look at it from an aerial view. You’ll see that that development pattern extends for a few blocks, at most, and is surrounded by a desert of single-family houses.

        Yes, a little bit of mixed use exists in each town. But to say that it’s “really common” in the US overall is absolutely false.

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          Towns that have them ARE really common, which was my point.

          Yes, a little bit of mixed use exists in each town.

          Glad we agree on the only thing I actually claimed.

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        Interestingly, those main squares were all built before zoning. If they were destroyed in a disaster, they could not be rebuilt.