• tauren@lemm.ee
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    It’s like the same but with a background color that has rounded corners.

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    Is it really a decade old? Feels like they redesign it every three years.

    Redesigning familiar UIs is a great way to give elderly, neuroatypical, and/or computer illiterate people a hard time.

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    Looks the same to me on a PC. Up/down arrows still adjust the volume. Scroll wheel on my mouse scrolls the entire screen as always. Do the changes only affect touchscreen devices?

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      Same. Money says that people bitching are on phones. Fair enough I guess, but I’m not fucking around watching video on a palm screen. I’ll wait till I get home and have a 40" TV to view.

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        Things like this roll out to more people over time. It’s clearly desktop, both from the screenshots and the fact people are complaining they can’t use the scroll wheel to change the volume while hovering over the volume button. That’s a desktop thing.

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          It’s all relative. If i sit a few meters away from a 50 inch screen, then it’s roughly the same size as a phone screen held 30cm from my face. It’s just a matter of perspective.

          The level of detail i can see is the same. My fancy earbuds make the sound quality essentially the same if not better.

          The only real difference is i have to hold the phone to watch it.

          Well, most people… not me, I have a folding phone with a stand, so for me, i can comfortably put the phone on a table on the stand that’s built into the case and watch from there. Works just fine.

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            I’d have to hold me phone so close to my face I can’t comfortably focus on it to match the relative size of my computer monitor, and it’s not a big monitor. Why would I settle for the jumbotron from the cheap seats when I can sit front row?

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    I’m indifferent to it. The jarring years were 2006 up to about 2015. It would shift between better and worse until it reached the point where the front page was all clickbait/ragebait/advertisements and you had to rely on your own subscriptions page. Every social media site should default to subscribed/followed stuff for logged in users but got to selll paid to promote content

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      I don’t know why anyone would willingly default to the algorithm, I set my bookmark direct to the subscription page.

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    Apart from the key bind loss, which would be asinine to remove permanently, this looks like a straight upgrade. Better readability and more in line with the rest of the UI design.

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    In their defense, I’m not sure I have ever seen a major UI redesign of some piece of software that the users of that software actually liked, at least at first. Inertia and muscle memory are powerful things.

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      Hence the reason why you make small gradual improvements over a long time. YT has been around a long time, and Google should know better.

      Well the old Google development company would know better, the new Google advertising agency doesn’t give a shit

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      How is that in their defense?? You reveal them for the gross imcompetents that, and almost all developpers are.

      If foreign strangers impose changes on my motor cortex then my prescription is to give them flamethrower enemas.

      Stop it, just stop it! Or else!

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        LOL, nailed it.

        I’m still bitter about browsers removing backspace for previous page. How was that hard to maintain?!

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          https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1336330

          Is there a way to restore backspace button function in the newest version of Firefox, so when pressing it the previous page opened?

          This function was very helpful for me!

          To prevent user data loss when filling out forms, we’ve disabled the Backspace key as a navigation shortcut for the back navigation button. To re-enable the Backspace keyboard shortcut, you can change the about:config preference browser.backspace_action to 0. You can also use the recommended Alt + Left arrow (Command + Left arrow on Mac) shortcut instead.

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            The better UX could have been making this a regular option, and (by default) showing a warning dialogue if using backspace to navigate would clear out a form.

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            I understand the reasoning, but I really wish Firefox had configurable keyboard shortcuts.

            heck, everything should have configurable shortcuts. It’s an accessibility feature with an obvious curb cut effect.

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    Neat, didn’t notice since they perma banned me for watching without ads via freetube I believe.

    Ive just been downloading videos direct with yt-dlp, but I think I’m going to extend it into a bash script which fetches the RSS of the channels I want, downloads them if they haven’t been downloaded, and then deletes them after they have been watched and after a certain amount of time has passed, or if I have marked them for deletion.

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      Ive just been downloading videos direct with yt-dlp, but I think I’m going to extend it into a bash script which fetches the RSS of the channels I want, downloads them if they haven’t been downloaded, and then deletes them after they have been watched and after a certain amount of time has passed, or if I have marked them for deletion.

      I wrote something a while back in bash that pulls down a channel with yt-dlp, remembers already-downloaded stuff, and doesn’t redownload. Has a menu interface showing a list of “subscribed” channels to pull from. If you want, I’ll throw you a copy.

      I’d do stuff like this with caution, as YouTube temp-IP-banned me from anonymous use for something like a month after I sucked down the contents of an enormous channel in a relatively-short time. At the very least, I’d suggest having it put a cap on how much it downloads by default so that you don’t inadvertently pull down way more than expected and run into trouble with YouTube. My own script doesn’t presently have such a cap.

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        I’m currently yanking everything over a VPN connection from a provider that I trust and I’m not collecting anything as enormous as entire channels. With this considered along with the fact that this is outside the bounds of a user account (I don’t believe EULA can come into play as a result), I don’t think I could get in much trouble with them outside of having to change VPN endpoints occasionally if they decide to block out some IP (On one or two occasions I have gotten a message back from yt-dlp noting to sign in to prove I am not a bot).

        I appreciate the offer on the script, however I think I will build my own as it is not an urgent matter for me and I consider it a good exercise in practicing my skills with programming. I’ve been looking to build my own RSS reader for a while, and I think this is probably a good use case for this as well.

        Thanks!

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      I’m using Pinchflat to do that as well. It can download vídeos from Youtube channels I follow using yt-dlp and checks automatically fpr new videos. Check it out, it might be similar to what you want to do

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    People literally always hate changes to ui. It’s to the point that this article could have been written and just archived somewhere to pull out whenever something changes.

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      When a developpers changes an UI without written consent of every single user, he should be treated like a witch at Salem

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    ugh, this is so much worse. takes up more space, is more distracting.

    I want to be able to skip around in videos and not have the screen covered by ugly pill buttons

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      At least it’s not covered by a dark shade now. 👍 I’m initially for this change. Good to see an iteration. Let’s see how it goes.

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        At least it’s not covered by a dark shade now.

        Why does that matter? It looked fine.

        It was literally my favorite design of online video player, and I remember enabling it back in the day when it was still an experimental feature.

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        Yeah. It also looks like the buttons might light up on hover, but they already basically do that so that’s only a very small plus. I too remember being annoyed about not seeing content behind the shade properly.

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    The adverts on youtube have become so unbearable so no amount of UI change will convince me to use it as intended. If there’s a long video I want to watch, I download the video first and watch it using VLC

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    YouTube can do whatever they want, you think that give a damn about the people? Noooopppppeeeee

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        With recent events, yeeeeeeep. More and more people are protesting with their wallets. Either google getting told to break off companies and/or sell them (e.g. Chrome), they’re going to make some crazy moves for your dollar and that will trigger the peak of the outcry and you’ll see it happen. It’s not a noppppe or yepppp situation, it’s “when”. Better now than later.

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          I’m not paying a dime for Google or YouTube. (I know, I’m the product.) So how am I to vote with my wallet? Happy to stay on YouTube until they block my ad-blocker, then I’ll look around.

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            Happy to stay on YouTube until they block my ad-blocker, then I’ll look around.

            They do block yt-dlp from downloading at least some account-and-login-required-to-view content now, which wasn’t historically the case, so they are slowly cracking down to some degree.

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          You’re not wrong. But it won’t happen because of this change, and it’s not going to happen tomorrow. So, as of now, they’re just complaining. I say ‘they’, because I left yt when they started video ads. I didn’t mind the banners, but the unskippable video disruptions were what broke my camel’s back (some of the early ones, if you recall, controlled your volume levels and turned themselves up). You’re right, eventually, everyone will hit a breaking point, but if the 60-120s unskippable video ads weren’t that point, this simple UI change won’t be that for the vast majority of users.

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              And while that’s possible for now, it won’t be for much longer, based on the A/B testing yt has been doing. We’re giving them too much power and relying on tools to bypass the stuff we don’t like, but those tools have their days numbered, regrettably.

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                Using the tools is fine IMO because the moment those tools stop working, people will move their time to Twitch/Instagram/Bluesky/TikTok/etc. 60-120 second ads will push away all, except for iPad toddlers.

                Makes me wonder if Google knows this, and is deliberately adding these ridiculous ads, but not patching those tools, so they can keep their user metrics up while pushing the uninformed/indifferent into YouTube Premium subscriptions…

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                The day I can’t avoid advertisements is the day I drop the service. You want my money? Provide a product that isn’t trying to wring me and my data dry.

                Video is expensive to host, I get that. I’d happily give a few bucks a month (which is way more than my ad views would be worth) but their asking price is laughable.

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                Gonna have to pay tbh. But once I am paying, I would rather not pay Sundar the creep.

                But we ain’t got a viable YouTube alternatives as of now

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        Viewers can’t do shit but watch where the creators are. Up to creators to organize. I see tubers bitching about payment and copyright. Can cry me a river, if they only offer videos on a single platform.

        I was perfectly fine with YouTube before monetization.

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          Yes we can. Third party front ends exist for yt and there are other (admittedly not as polished) alternatives for the entire platform. When enough viewers use them, it will force the hands of the posters to use other, less abusive avenues (maybe in addition to yt). I’m fine with monetization, but not when it degrades my experience. There are better ways. Yt isn’t the only one, nor is it the first. It’s just the most popular currently.

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            Youtube 3rd party apps do nothing but deal with privacy issues and still rely on YouTube infra which means also dealing with the censorship and copyright systems. Meanwhile you’re just seen as a leech, including by creators since they get no ad rev from you watching. I adblock too, so that includes myself.

            What are the viewers watching on alternative platforms with no video creators besides crypto bros and political extremists too edgy for YouTube?

            Realistically I don’t see anything happening besides the usual tried and true method now:

            They self own their own website so hard with repeat scandals until an exodus happens and hope it’s your new decentralized platform instead of another corpo centralized platform… which is most likely because the way I see it done is with big bags of money and contracts with creators.

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              YouTube has a pretty strong hold because video hosting and streaming is extremely expensive. That’s why most platforms have strict file limits for them. In the pre-Google days of YouTube, most accounts could only upload <15 minute videos, and that limitation is still in place if you have an unverified account.

              I don’t see how we’ll get any alternative to YouTube unless it comes from another large corporation, though I’d love to be proven wrong in that.