This legitimizes the argument to those “promoting” and benefiting from making immigration a central political issue. Not smart.
I will not accept this injustice as long as bavarians and swabians are still free to roam germany as they please.
Immigration isn’t the issue; xenophobia is.
The issue is that colonialism has depleted the resources of many countries and destabilized them, thus making them unsafe for many today Of course people will try to stay alive by fleeing those conditions. And it’s outrageous to turn them away. Us westerners have it good BECAUSE they have it bad. Doesn’t matter that nobody alive today is responsible for colonialism.
There’s other problems too of course. Like the war in the Congo has nothing to do with a lack of resources and everything to do with greed over the plentiful resources. Also ethnic disputes.
You’re describing symptoms, the commenter above you spoke about the causes.
Even if you would think that were a good thing - which I don’t - there is no business case justifying spending all this money on border controls, impacting travel, increasing congestion and pollution just to ’catch’ 19(!) “illegal” immigrants. Even the numbers don’t add up.
Also: Nobody is illegal!
It’s sad that people looking for better life are illegal
Nobody is illegal
I hate this so much…
The thing is: YOU might not be “illegal”, but entering your neighbors house without his consent indeed is illegal.
What would you do if a random number of strangers would tomorrow at noon decide that it would be a great idea to just enter your house?
The right to asylum was put into the constitution because many victims of the holocaust where denied entry to other counties before getting rounded up and killed.
If a stranger is running down the street, chased by a guy with a blood soaked knife, would you let them in?
Edit: spelling
There is a huge difference between your house and a country.
And also between the thing you are doing being illegal and you being illegal
Then at least they should start saying “people who illegally immigrate” or something like that, because “illegal immigrants” does make it sound like its the people themselves who are illegal and that rhetoric only serves the far right
This is what the slogan is and always was trying to convey.
Exactly, see my first comment above
When the law is immoral, ignoring the law is the right thing to do. Turning away asylum seekers at the border is immoral and probably also violates EU law. Which the fucktard Dobrint already knew. Because he is a fucktard and also fucked up the Autobahn Maut back then and he also knew that it was probably not legal back then, too.
Where is this immoral? Are the EU countries bordering Germany that bad of a place? I don’t think so…
How is it morally right to put the perceived (by people like you I assume) burden of immigration only on the countries with EU outer borders?
It’s also immoral to perceive these people as a burden in the first place.
It’s not about “but there are other EU states around Germany where they can apply”. The immoral thing is to turn them away without a proper asylum procedure. And if you look at the numbers, there isn’t really any sort of crisis that would warrant such an extreme resolution. https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/76095/umfrage/asylantraege-insgesamt-in-deutschland-seit-1995/
Well, the point is that due to the Dublin III regulation the state in which the refuge seeking person first enters the EU is primarily responsible for the asylum procedure. So, there IS a proper asylum procedure the refuge seeking persons can apply to.
Not sure if you’re serious… If you’re seeking refuge, many of the countries bordering Germany are terrible places, Poland and Czechia especially.
How are Poland and Czechia terrible? I get why they might not be the first choice for everyone, but “terrible” is REALLY stretching it. And I say this as a citizen of country where lots of people emmigrate from into Czechia, because they consider it a better place.
Well yeah, those places may be not that nice, but they are a far cry from an actual ongoing conflict zone or something like that. At this place you can apply for asylum and if it is granted you can look for further options…
If someone wants to chose a nice place to live and work at… well, there is the normal immigration procedure for that.
Is it really?
Yes.
Do you honestly think this is a “gotcha”?
ITT: someone who understands fuck all of what makes the world run.
Hinweis: Uns fehlen noch immer 200.000-300.000 Migranten um unsere Pflege und Sozialsysteme weiter zu unterhalten. Wäre halt geil gewesen, die Menschen die hier ankommen, schnell in Arbeit zu bringen. Nichts integriert besser als den Menschen die Möglichkeit zu geben, sich etwas aufzubauen, damit sie etwas zum verlieren haben. Wer auch noch einem Jahr sich noch nichts aufbauen konnte, hat nichts zu verlieren und wird sich nicht integrieren.
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what would be the correct response to a comment in german? Because responding to it in another language feels wrong to me.
shrugs Either not answering or answering in English seems like an option. I do understand that the latter feels weird though. But helping/allowing threads of German-only comments to form, unrestricted, is going to make this place markedly worse for anyone who does not speak German.
True. Sorry.
Ein Freund von mir hatte 2 Zusagen für eine Ausbildung in der Altenpflege, hat gerade ein BFD in der Pflege gemacht, Integrationskurs gemacht, großes soziales Umfeld, war super engagiert, einen großen Kreis Unterstützer*innen (privat und aus der lokalen Politik) und wurde ca. eine Woche bevor er eine Ausbildungsduldung beantragen konnte abgeschoben. Und das Amt wusste genau, dass er das alles hat.
Edit: Zu der These, dass wer sich nach einem Jahr nichts aufgebaut hat, sich nicht integrieren wird: Da möchte ich scharf widersprechen. Es wird Menschen unglaublich schwer gemacht sich zu integrieren, sowohl von Amtswegen als auch gesellschaftlich. Dazu noch Menschen, die vor etwas geflohen sind, traumatisiert sind, krank sind, oder zig andere Gründe, die eine Integration erschweren.
Es ist Montagmorgen und Geschichten wie diese bringen mein Blut zum kochen.
Ist wirklich übel. Fand es allerdings auch toll zu sehen, wie viele Menschen bereit waren zu unterstützen und wie viel Ausnahmen an vielen Stellen gemacht wurden. Nur leider nicht bei der zuständigen Behörde. Ersteres hat mich immer wieder motiviert mit ihm dran zu bleiben.
Ja und die dummen faschos verstehen diesen super simpeln und leicht ableitbaren Ansatz nicht.
Nah, they just believe we’ll be making 300.000 additional kids a year instead.
Edit: Switched to English.
Brütet für das Vaterland hurrah!
Aber die nehmen uns die Arbeit weg! /s
Nehmen alle Ausländer uns nun die Arbeit weg oder sind sie alle faul und beziehen nur Harz4? Nazis sollten sich schon mal entscheiden.
a fricking tragedy, and sadly one we all already saw coming when Merz was buddy-buddy with AfD on this very topic.
i fucking hate this timeline.
Bild reported that over two days, authorities also detained 14 smugglers, carried out 48 open arrest warrants, and apprehended nine individuals under extremism laws targeting hard-left, far-right, and Islamist ideologies, among others.
Holy shit. Two days. Imagine how many more criminals and terrorists they’re going to find if they retain this policy. Previously these people just came and went as they pleased.
And how many potential retirement fund payers got turned away? How many nurses to wipe your ass once you’re old?
Of course you’re going to find more people with an arrest warrant on them if you check every single person. That’s a no-brainer. But what are you paying for that?
Yeah, that totally sounds like a lot in a country of 84m. /s
Disappointing but not surprising.
Well done, Germany.
Edit: /s
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