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“I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no water, no fuel, everything is closed,” Gallant said. “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly.”
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“I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no water, no fuel, everything is closed,” Gallant said. “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly.”
Jesus fucking Christ.
This feels like a humanitarian crisis that will soon become a full genocide.
It feels like the Israeli govt has used this terrorist attack to become terrorists themselves.
I mean they’ve been like that since forever, but now they’re showing their true colors (more than they were).
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I don’t think it is outside of the realm of possibility that in 30 years we learn that the Mossad knew about this and were ordered to let it happen. The intelligence fuckup was so enormous that it seems plausible they at least knew something was up. And the Israeli government has proven itself cynical enough to lend such a thought possible.
There was rumor that they were observed training for this and the authorities told something was up. Which they seemingly ignored. Defense forces have to be right all the time however. Attackers only need to be right once. So be careful reading a lot into it.
Yep, I’d imagine most times when there have been air strikes, incursions, raids etc. Where they’ve destroyed weapons or captured/killed some terrorist leader could have thwarted similar events.
For a long time I’ve thought of the situation there as a slow-motion genocide. Looks like they’re using the “surprise” attack by Hamas as an excuse to go full Hitler.
I think we’ll see Israel just bomb the entire strip into a crater, they’ve spent the last 20 odd years working on weaponry that’s specifically designed to destroy Palestine, they’ve just been waiting for something they can use as an excuse to use it all.
Now we know why Israel has been so reluctant to send military aid to Ukraine. They’ve been saving it for a special occasion.
Jewish space lasers… again?
They are “acting accordingly” by performing an ethnic cleansing. How disgustingly ironic.
Only savage, ruthless men purposefully murder dozens of babies in an agricultural community.
There’s been decades of legitimate attempts at peace, and the only party that has stood in the way are Palestinians themselves. At one point, Israel even had proposed a plan that would link Gaza and the West Bank with their own elevated highway and railway. They would have had their own autonomy and Israel would have kept or guarded the territory that was a security risk to them (i.e. being able to fire artillery at Tel Aviv). But that wasn’t good enough for Arafat.
Educate yourself on the history of the region, on the atrocities committed by both sides (the sinking of the USS Liberty by Israel, the latest barbarism by Palestinians, etc), and on all the failed attempts at peace. The only rational conclusion to come to is that the majority of the Palestinian population support Hamas and are brainwashed, genocidal maniacs.
Speaking as someone who has been to the Middle East for industrial projects and visited multiple Arab countries, the only “apartheid” states in the Middle East are Arab ones. I’ve been on projects where Muslims tried to separate Americans with PhDs and Masters degrees from their teams and put them in slums just because of the color of their skin or their ancestry.
Sick of all the vulgar “white girl” naivety in Western culture. Some societies and cultures are just evil, and the brainwashing of their children needs to be stopped.
Israel’s “peace talks” are nonsense.
Israelis have stolen their land and homes, have performed ethnic cleansing, stripped them of their rights, and acted like they’re the victims the entire time.
There’s no good solution here, but an Israeli solution is not any solution at all.
“Israel offering peace talks” is like me offering you a couch after I steal your land and burned your house down. It isn’t workable.
I’m just giving you one reply. Take a couple hours today or this week to start with Wikipedia and then find alternative sources to further educate yourself on the latest history of the region.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip#1948_All-Palestine_government
You’re wrong, you have the internet freely available to learn the truth. You can either decide that you want to know the truth, or you can be a lazy piece of shit and continue believing lies. Living a life of lies is your problem, not mine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre
Since you love Wikipedia links and “peace agreements” here is one.
And thus all violence then and forever against Jews was justified.
Of course I know about it asshole. If you think this in any way justifies any violence, then I’ve got some news for you. It was in response to violence perpetrated by Muslims against Jews, so I guess this massacre was justified we’re going to by current day leftist logic. I mean, if it’s right to respond to the massacres perpetrated by Hamas with “you reap what you sow”, then we can say the same thing about this. Read the link you fucking linked dumbass.
Two wrongs don’t make a right, so I obviously do not support atrocities such as that and condemn them. Just feel like I need to make that distinction for simpletons such as you.
You can’t argue with these people man. They are just contrarians. Make fun of them and move on, because absolutely no one with any power in the world gives a fuck what they say.
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There can be no effective peace talks between the neck and the sword.
Palestinians have always been a people with a homeland but deprived of a state, their identity forged by oppression and resistance under a succession of empires. They were not called to give any input on the British decision to carve out their land for a Jewish state. They were driven out of their land by the millions, and those that remained were squeezed tighter and tigther, slowly pushed out of the usable land by illegal colonists which are protected by the state of Israel. Palestinian statehood was neglected for long enough that Israel was able to shatter or consume all Palestinian territory, making a Palestinian state inviable.
The state of Israel is entirely the product of imperialism, first British and now American. There can be no peaceful two-state solution because one of these states should not exist! The only peace will be a one-state peace, and it can only be achieved through bloodshed. Either the Palestinian people will finally gain their sovereignty, or the Zionists will finish building their monoethnic, theocratic paradise over the crushed bones of Palestine.
The idea that “some societies are just evil” is a very poor excuse to justify apartheid, but it’s certainly not a new one. What is more “evil”: to hate those that invaded your land and deprived you not only of self-determination, but of food, water and a future? Or to consider those of a different religion and cultural background as “human animals”, spit on them and their religious symbols, arrest their children and deprive them of their human rights, kick their elders to the curb, drive them out of their family farms and into crowded and guarded ghettos?
Calling that heinous conclusion you came to rational is an offense to reason and to all moral and reasonable people.
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My point about imperialism stands because it hinges on the creation of the modern state of Israel itself as well as its consequences. The imperialist character of Israel predates even its foundation, let alone the Arab-Israeli War. I don’t understand why you keep linking to this section about the All-Palestine government. Could you elaborate?
I encourage you to read a bit further into that article about the Gaza Strip. It mentions how Israeli control over the Gaza Strip, both during its occupation and after, has served to operate an intentional de-development, leading to an engineered humanitarian crisis. Israel has arguably turned Gaza into the largest open air prison in the world (the article’s words, not mine), and the large majority of those imprisoned are civilians, including a large contingent of children.
Anyhow, I can see that we are both very passionate about this, but I hope that you are at least able to see this from another point of view and understand that my position is not ill-intentioned. I harbor no hatred towards Jews or Israeli citizens as a whole; I do despise imperialist Zionism and the apartheid practices of the state of Israel. I believe the state should not have been created, because it is from its inception a theocratic herrenvolk democracy and a puppet of imperialist powers used to keep the Arab countries in Western Asia and the Mahgreb in check; and that the best possible solution to the Palestinian conflict is a multi-religious, multi-ethnic Palestinian state in which neither Arab nor Jewish supremacy is permitted.
Cannot wait til leftist podcasts invent a more accurate term for “countries doing things I don’t like” because this one is so fucking dumb
I’m not a big fan of podcasts, so I got the term from Lenin’s book on the matter; that’s the definition of imperialism I’m using. Countries which are not imperial powers do plenty of things I don’t like. I’m not claiming that one or another war crime is essentially imperialist, I’m saying that the foundation of the state of Israel is a reflection of imperialism as the current, highest stage of capitalism; the stage of the internationalization and concentration of capital through monopoly and the global financial system; reflected politically in the colonization and exploitation of the whole world and its division in empire and colony; which first dominant empire was the British and second and dominant great empire is the US. In this context, the creation of Israel is a British colonial project which was carried out without any consultation to the Palestinian residents of the area, and with the intention to strengthen the British claim to that chunk of the Ottoman Empire. Israel is now repurposed as a bastion of US imperialism in Western Asia, which serves to keep the Arab powers in check and satisfy the goals of Christian Zionism.
Six of one, half a dozen of the other. Tripe is tripe.
I totally agree with you.
In the same vein, Ukraine has totally ignored various offers from Russia and isn’t a true partner for peace.
All they need to do is compromise and give up their land.
I’ll just reply with a meme I’m sure you’ve seen going around.
The moment Russia stops fighting, there is peace. The moment Ukraine stops fighting, they cease to exist.
The moment Hamas/Palestine stop fighting, there is peace. The moment Israel stops fighting and focusing on their own security, they are genocided.
If you genuinely care about peace and others, then take some time to educate yourself. I won’t do it for you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip#1948_All-Palestine_government
So the moment the Palestinians stop resisting, Israel will stop settlement construction (i.e. Ethnic cleansing) despite this being the opposite position of Netanyahu’s government?
Of course!
The only way there will be peace is if Israel moves. Any other negotiations are pointless. There is no path to peace with Israel staying where it is.
Ignorant statement of the day: the only “apartheid” states in the Middle East are Arab ones. I’ve been on projects where Muslims tried to separate Americans with PhDs and Masters degrees from their teams and put them in slums just because of the color of their skin or their ancestry
Imagine siding with the oppressors and not the oppressed and trying to darvo literal genocide.
You both sides this argument then side with the fascists. Wow.
Dude made the effort to list a couple of things Israel did to solve the conflict by compromising and that is your reply?
Lmao
There is no compromise when you steal someone’s land out from under them and bulldoze their homes.
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Don’t need to behead the babies when you can just bomb them, I guess
Ah yes, I remember that time when the Israeli airforce saw a cluster of babies and decided to bomb them on purpose.
You know perfectly well that Hamas puts innocents in harms way in order to cause collateral damage. Blame them, not Israel. Fuck off.
No they just bulldoze the houses of the babies and kicked them off the land. Somehow that makes them the good guys.
But the thing is Hamas fucked themselves and the people of Palestine with their recent attack. No one on an international level will bat an eye at what Israel does with the Palestine in the near future. Hamas knew that there would have to be a massive response from Israel but the attack was allowed to take place and no one in Palestine cared enough to stop it. Anyone innocent needs to flee for a border because the laws of physics are just going to play out now.
“no one will bat an eye”
Where were all the batting eyes when the shoe was on the other foot?
when did Israel invade hamas territory, kill hundreds of innocent civilians, capture hundreds more and then threaten to execute the hostages?
you haven’t been following this shitshow for long have you? Look up Israels illegal settlements, both sides in this are evil and don’t give a shit about civilian lives.
The west bank has nothing to do with Gaza or Hamas
Fatah runs the west bank
what the…
those two regions are inhabited by the same people, from the (former) same country. Fatah runs the West Bank yes, that does not suddenly make the people there non-Palestinians. Hamas still uses the issues in the West Bank as ammunition in their propaganda against Israel because the Palestinians in Gaza, surprise, care about the Palestinians in the West Bank.
Imagine not even knowing what is happening in the place you claim so passionately to care about lol
settlements are by definition peaceful. rocket attacks are the polar opposite.
hm, there’s a name for illegally occupying territory of a foreign nation while claiming they can’t claim that territory. Ah right, colonialism. The very act of building settlements in someone else’s territory is an act of aggression, it’s in no way peaceful.
It doesn’t even matter now. That’s how stupid the attack was.
No one was coming to their rescue anyway. Everyone else was already turning a blind eye to Israel’s abuses.
Unfortunately the perception of the people of Palestine as being victims of a more powerful state protected them from a lot of actions Israel could have taken but didn’t.
“people recognizing state sanctioned violence made it a lot harder to commit crimes against humanity, so be happy they’ve been allowed to live this long”
They chose this fight. If Egypt doesn’t want them because Palestinians have caused coup attempts and general terroristic activities in their country. They can swim if they like.
ok Israel, tell us you’re openly planning to violate the Geneva Convention without telling us…
They already have for decades. It’s pretty well known they have killed wounded, children and civilian/non-combatants, and specifically target medical facilities. There’s even no actual Red Cross in Israel, the President of Israel appoints the president of the Magen David Adom. Something that only happens in a few authoritarian contexts. The ICRC has spend decades trying to get them to international humanitarian standards, but they stubbornly refused and even used financial manipulation (from the American Red Cross on behalf of Israel) to pressure the movement into folding to their demands. Even after being admitted with the approval of the red crystal, they still continue to violate the conditions of their admittance to the movement. They are not supposed to operate outside of Israel but still act on the West Bank and break the conditions all the time. They’re the only Red Cross who is mandated by their state to act as an arm of the army in the event of a war. Something that is explicitly against the principles of the movement and the Conventions.
Best not to
pokebomb the sleeping giant.