I’ve been forced onto a shit mac book with this stupid OS for the first time in my life and spend 90% of the tine interacting with it basically trying to work around how bad window management and many other things are. Hacks and custom apps and changing options to try to make sense of it. I’m in this hell hole for 2 months now. I still have no idea or feeling for how or when windows behave or if they even become maximized or not. I hate it all.
The worst offender is opening the system settings and it’s a stupid window that can’t be maximized in anyway whatsoever and just sits there looking like an horrendous thing being frustrating.
But after using it I’ve finally understood where so many bad decisions gnome for example is stealing their ideas from.
Not really, this was the paradigm on Mac for ages. That’s also why there are three different ways for a Mac app to “become fullscreen” and they have different behavior, because they kept patching on top of the default workflow
True, but Mac users are the least flexible computer users of all time.
Apple changes two pixels in an icon or introduces a new default window snapping size and the hosts of ATP record a 5 hour long podcast episode abou this ruined the world and permanently broke their workflow.
Ok, but we’re talking about GNOME here and you’re saying that somehow GNOME copied Apple on this, but it really isn’t the case. GNOME apps pretty much all do go full screen. And the paradigm for over a decade has been this way.
Gnome largely refers to the software suite. gtk is included in the set of libraries anyone can use to make any software. So yes, anyone can use full screens when making software with gtk, but the pre-existing gnome software doesn’t.
I actually really like how macOS handled full screen apps, with the windows 8 style side by side and a simple gesture flipping between them like pages in a book.
I’m not sure I understand… GTK can use full screens…
This is what I am referring to. Many macOS people work like this:
I’ve been forced onto a shit mac book with this stupid OS for the first time in my life and spend 90% of the tine interacting with it basically trying to work around how bad window management and many other things are. Hacks and custom apps and changing options to try to make sense of it. I’m in this hell hole for 2 months now. I still have no idea or feeling for how or when windows behave or if they even become maximized or not. I hate it all.
The worst offender is opening the system settings and it’s a stupid window that can’t be maximized in anyway whatsoever and just sits there looking like an horrendous thing being frustrating.
But after using it I’ve finally understood where so many bad decisions gnome for example is stealing their ideas from.
Amen. Moved countries, started a new job. They forced me into OSX and gsuite.
I’ve been stuck in that for over 6 years now.
Ok but that’s a skills issue on the part of the user, a PEBKAC. Not the fault of the environment.
Not really, this was the paradigm on Mac for ages. That’s also why there are three different ways for a Mac app to “become fullscreen” and they have different behavior, because they kept patching on top of the default workflow
Perhaps, but it also hasn’t been like that for like a whole ass decade.
True, but Mac users are the least flexible computer users of all time.
Apple changes two pixels in an icon or introduces a new default window snapping size and the hosts of ATP record a 5 hour long podcast episode abou this ruined the world and permanently broke their workflow.
Ok, but we’re talking about GNOME here and you’re saying that somehow GNOME copied Apple on this, but it really isn’t the case. GNOME apps pretty much all do go full screen. And the paradigm for over a decade has been this way.
I said nothing of the sort.
You’re right, you personally didn’t, but thats the thread we’re talking about right now.
Gnome largely refers to the software suite. gtk is included in the set of libraries anyone can use to make any software. So yes, anyone can use full screens when making software with gtk, but the pre-existing gnome software doesn’t.
Yeah I’m gonna disagree. I can’t think of a “standard” app that doesn’t full screen properly.
So can OSX for some time now it gives a full screen program it’s own workspace type screen
I actually really like how macOS handled full screen apps, with the windows 8 style side by side and a simple gesture flipping between them like pages in a book.
Gnome pretty much works the same way as well
But GNOME 3 looks subjectively bad and objectively wastes space :(