Please take Elizabeth Warren (capitalist to my bones/snake) off the progressive list. She was a Republican until the Democrats moved far enough to the right for her to join. Second she helped destroy Sanders Second presidential run, and part of that, besides staying in the primary after she lost her own state. But stayed in for super Tuesday to keep Sanders from getting the votes. She also pulled that hot mic stunt and called Sanders a sexist. She a fucking monster and is no progressive.
I have my own reservations about Warren similar to your’s. But:
I didn’t make the meme. I am but a lazy reposter.
She’s been a Dem almost as long as I’ve been alive, and for her entire political career. Don’t really know how much stock I’d put in “She used to be a Republican decades ago before she got into politics.”
Being a progressive and being a slimy opportunist are, unfortunately, not mutually exclusive.
I didn’t say that she wasn’t a Republican, though I see how you could read it that way, I said I don’t know how much weight I would put into that fact considering it was considerably before she even entered politics - and as your screenshot notes, she hadn’t voted for a GOP presidential candidate for decades before even that.
For some reason people seem to love purity-testing Warren and finding her wanting. Warren made the CFPB happen. Of course, now it’s being dismantled by republicans, but I’d be willing to bet that her work has accomplished more actual progressive goals than anyone in this comment section.
There’s a lot of bad blood with Warren over the 2020 primaries for us Bernie supporters. Hell, I’m still not entirely over it, and I try to be charitable with regards to her motivations for her behavior during the primary.
Presidential elections are about as competitive as anything gets.
Bernie’s been over it for years; she’s literally one of his best allies in the senate. I assume if the person on the other end of the fight can get over it, the people who weren’t even there can figure it out too and stop wasting energy attacking the people who want to help us.
I mean, I wish I could be as high-minded as Bernie, but the fact is that I’m just… not. And neither are most people.
Bernie hit the trail hard campaigning for Hillary fucking Clinton even after the shitshow in the 2016 primary because he realized what was at stake. He’s a rare soul.
Same. Bernie forgiving her is two fold, he’s the bigger man compared to me, and he recognizes the need for some allies, even if you can’t fully trust them.
But she’s a snake, a liar, a cheat, and I don’t trust her not to Tulsi Gabbard us, even if she won’t take it to that extreme… But honestly, I couldn’t tell you what extreme she would take it to, considering she’s proven herself to be checks notes a snake, a liar, and a cheat. Is she better than most of em? No fucking clue. Her results have been better in most cases, but who knows what she’d do if the money or motivation is right.
There’s a short story, What We Talk About When We Talk About Anne Frank. It’s a good read, but basically it boils down to a group of Jewish friends discussing who would hide each other if the Nazis ever came back into power, and there’s an uncomfortable realization when one of them realizes someone they love wouldn’t have the spine to hide them if the shit hit the fan. That’s how I feel about EW. When the shit hits the fan her progressiveness goes out the window, and it becomes how she can protect her own interests over the literal billions of people on the planet that would benefit from a truly progressive American administration.
Please take Elizabeth Warren (capitalist to my bones/snake) off the progressive list. She was a Republican until the Democrats moved far enough to the right for her to join. Second she helped destroy Sanders Second presidential run, and part of that, besides staying in the primary after she lost her own state. But stayed in for super Tuesday to keep Sanders from getting the votes. She also pulled that hot mic stunt and called Sanders a sexist. She a fucking monster and is no progressive.
I have my own reservations about Warren similar to your’s. But:
I didn’t make the meme. I am but a lazy reposter.
She’s been a Dem almost as long as I’ve been alive, and for her entire political career. Don’t really know how much stock I’d put in “She used to be a Republican decades ago before she got into politics.”
Being a progressive and being a slimy opportunist are, unfortunately, not mutually exclusive.
Yes she was a Republican that is easy to verify
I didn’t say that she wasn’t a Republican, though I see how you could read it that way, I said I don’t know how much weight I would put into that fact considering it was considerably before she even entered politics - and as your screenshot notes, she hadn’t voted for a GOP presidential candidate for decades before even that.
For some reason people seem to love purity-testing Warren and finding her wanting. Warren made the CFPB happen. Of course, now it’s being dismantled by republicans, but I’d be willing to bet that her work has accomplished more actual progressive goals than anyone in this comment section.
There’s a lot of bad blood with Warren over the 2020 primaries for us Bernie supporters. Hell, I’m still not entirely over it, and I try to be charitable with regards to her motivations for her behavior during the primary.
Presidential elections are about as competitive as anything gets.
Bernie’s been over it for years; she’s literally one of his best allies in the senate. I assume if the person on the other end of the fight can get over it, the people who weren’t even there can figure it out too and stop wasting energy attacking the people who want to help us.
I mean, I wish I could be as high-minded as Bernie, but the fact is that I’m just… not. And neither are most people.
Bernie hit the trail hard campaigning for Hillary fucking Clinton even after the shitshow in the 2016 primary because he realized what was at stake. He’s a rare soul.
It’s always good to have something to aspire to.
For me, I’ll keep admiring Warren for as long as she keeps beating up banks. I don’t really give a shit about a primary they both lost anymore.
Same. Bernie forgiving her is two fold, he’s the bigger man compared to me, and he recognizes the need for some allies, even if you can’t fully trust them.
But she’s a snake, a liar, a cheat, and I don’t trust her not to Tulsi Gabbard us, even if she won’t take it to that extreme… But honestly, I couldn’t tell you what extreme she would take it to, considering she’s proven herself to be checks notes a snake, a liar, and a cheat. Is she better than most of em? No fucking clue. Her results have been better in most cases, but who knows what she’d do if the money or motivation is right.
There’s a short story, What We Talk About When We Talk About Anne Frank. It’s a good read, but basically it boils down to a group of Jewish friends discussing who would hide each other if the Nazis ever came back into power, and there’s an uncomfortable realization when one of them realizes someone they love wouldn’t have the spine to hide them if the shit hit the fan. That’s how I feel about EW. When the shit hits the fan her progressiveness goes out the window, and it becomes how she can protect her own interests over the literal billions of people on the planet that would benefit from a truly progressive American administration.