Am I just too close geographically to Wisconsin or are y’all overplaying how bad our cheese is? Cause like I can run to the store and get some really incredible cheeses. There’s almost no ultra processed shit cheese in stores near me, in fact it’s basically just those Kraft singles and those are only good for “grilled cheese.”
People think American chocolate and think Hershey.
People think American beer and think Budweiser.
People think American burgers and think McDonald’s.
They just know the cheap, bland international brands, but not the amazing regional stuff.
America is a huge diverse place, with amazing food, amazing people, and amazing landscapes, but they only experience the cheap stuff, cause the best stuff isn’t made for export.
Edit: they’ve never had Wisconsin string cheese where you can see the handprints of the person who made it, and it shows.
I know it’s kinda “basic” but fresh cheese curds go so hard, it’s unreal. I genuinely feel bad for anyone who can’t get them fresh, it’s a life changing snack.
This right here. It’s funny when Europeans trash our beer culture. My state has more beer styles and types than all of Europe. Not that European beer isn’t good, it is, but Germany isn’t going to brew a juicy IPA because of their antiquated laws. It’s different.
They have great cheese, no doubt, but so does the US when you actually look for it. Guess what Europeans, we don’t like Kraft either.
My state has more beer styles and types than all of Europe.
No, it definitely don’t. This says more about your complete ignorance of anything outside of the US than anything else.
but Germany isn’t going to brew a juicy IPA because of their antiquated laws.
And again this says everything about what you don’t know than anything else.
Edit: You seem to be completely unaware that Europe had its own craft beer revolution decades ago (and yes also in Germany, where they do indeed brew lots of “juicy IPA”), which means that there are craft beer places everywhere, on top of all the existing old types of beer (which are already more types than exist in your state).
Combined with the fact that Europe has over twice the population of the US means there are a whole lot more people to brew and consume beer than in the US.
I was going to say am I too bougie, or is everyone overplaying how bad our cheese is? Sure we have some bad cheeses, and American cheese needs to be in the context of melting on some sort of sandwich. But there are so many cheeeses of so many styles, so many qualities.
If you don’t like the cheap stuff, don’t buy the cheap stuff
I’ll not going to expect everyone to go on an European vacation. It’s expensive, and definitely elitist to even suggest.
But if you like cheese, I really hope that one day you’ll visit any European country and enjoy their wonderful cheese culture (each county there has a vastly different cheese culture, and at list for those I’ve visited they are all amazing)
Not in Wisconsin. Hell every regular grocery store has a huge cheese section. We have several cheese mongers here, dairy farms where you can tour and buy fresh cheese. We even have a festival for it https://www.cheesedays.com/. I’ve lived most of my life in the Midwest, which may explain why I think good cheese is abundant. Heck even out in Detroit they famously use Wisconsin brick cheese for their signature pizza. However, I do realize that many other states don’t even have access to brick cheese or have even heard of brick. From this thread, I guess they’re missing out on our other cheese too.
Am I just too close geographically to Wisconsin or are y’all overplaying how bad our cheese is? Cause like I can run to the store and get some really incredible cheeses. There’s almost no ultra processed shit cheese in stores near me, in fact it’s basically just those Kraft singles and those are only good for “grilled cheese.”
People think American cheese and think Kraft.
People think American chocolate and think Hershey.
People think American beer and think Budweiser.
People think American burgers and think McDonald’s.
They just know the cheap, bland international brands, but not the amazing regional stuff.
America is a huge diverse place, with amazing food, amazing people, and amazing landscapes, but they only experience the cheap stuff, cause the best stuff isn’t made for export.
Edit: they’ve never had Wisconsin string cheese where you can see the handprints of the person who made it, and it shows.
I know it’s kinda “basic” but fresh cheese curds go so hard, it’s unreal. I genuinely feel bad for anyone who can’t get them fresh, it’s a life changing snack.
Especially if they give that nice squeak when you bite in.
Elitists love ignorance.
This right here. It’s funny when Europeans trash our beer culture. My state has more beer styles and types than all of Europe. Not that European beer isn’t good, it is, but Germany isn’t going to brew a juicy IPA because of their antiquated laws. It’s different.
They have great cheese, no doubt, but so does the US when you actually look for it. Guess what Europeans, we don’t like Kraft either.
No, it definitely don’t. This says more about your complete ignorance of anything outside of the US than anything else.
And again this says everything about what you don’t know than anything else.
Edit: You seem to be completely unaware that Europe had its own craft beer revolution decades ago (and yes also in Germany, where they do indeed brew lots of “juicy IPA”), which means that there are craft beer places everywhere, on top of all the existing old types of beer (which are already more types than exist in your state).
Combined with the fact that Europe has over twice the population of the US means there are a whole lot more people to brew and consume beer than in the US.
I was going to say am I too bougie, or is everyone overplaying how bad our cheese is? Sure we have some bad cheeses, and American cheese needs to be in the context of melting on some sort of sandwich. But there are so many cheeeses of so many styles, so many qualities.
If you don’t like the cheap stuff, don’t buy the cheap stuff
I’ll not going to expect everyone to go on an European vacation. It’s expensive, and definitely elitist to even suggest.
But if you like cheese, I really hope that one day you’ll visit any European country and enjoy their wonderful cheese culture (each county there has a vastly different cheese culture, and at list for those I’ve visited they are all amazing)
There are worse reasons to travel than cheese
Outside the dairy capital of America, yes, the dairy situation sucks.
Vermont cheddars like nobody’s business. Like, they’ve got the good shit with the crunch.
Most Americans outside dairy areas don’t have many high quality local cheese options, but we have high quality domestic cheese options.
It’s really butter and Parmesan where we can’t compare.
Crunch?! What cheese are you eating that crunches?
A sufficiently aged cheddar gets little crystals in it. You’ll only notice them at room temperature and if you’re paying attention.
Yeah, nothing like a good creamy, nutty, sweaty animal cheddar with crunchy bits in it.
I don’t know. I live in Wisconsin… I don’t understand why people assume cheeses made by America are bad.
go to any European market, check the cheese section. or go to any cheese shop (not sure they exist in the US) it’s not even close.
Not in Wisconsin. Hell every regular grocery store has a huge cheese section. We have several cheese mongers here, dairy farms where you can tour and buy fresh cheese. We even have a festival for it https://www.cheesedays.com/. I’ve lived most of my life in the Midwest, which may explain why I think good cheese is abundant. Heck even out in Detroit they famously use Wisconsin brick cheese for their signature pizza. However, I do realize that many other states don’t even have access to brick cheese or have even heard of brick. From this thread, I guess they’re missing out on our other cheese too.
Oh yeah that’s why. I live in the northeast and most of our cheese is the processed stuff. The good stuff is in the specialty section.
I also live in the Northeast, and, uh, New England absolutely has good cheese on a local level.
National brands are offered everywhere and are shit so they can be shipped across country. Strive for regional brands and you’ll have luck.
The northeast has cheese from Vermont. Granted, not as much as Wisconsin, but it is good stuff.
Yeah but that’s pretty much just cheddar. I don’t think I’ve had any other notable cheeses from VT.
Fair enough
Tragic, truly. I love cheese, have a whole section in the fridge dedicated to just cheese.