Is this taking action against Israel or against israelis. Would you be fine if your country’s government did something and then people who you dont know were aggressive towards you?
How does this action help Palestine in any way?
Greece is the most antisemitic, non muslim majority, country in the world. I am greek btw.
Το ADL είναι χαζός οργανισμός, τα νούμερα μπορεί να είναι λάθος, αλλά η σχέση ανάμεσα στα νούμερα νομίζω ότι είναι σχετικά σωστή. Υπόψιν, τα νούμερα είναι από το 2014-2015. Η Ελλάδα πάντα είχε θέμα με τον αντισημιτισμό και από τη άκρα δεξιά και από την άκρα αριστερά.
The percentages are irrelevant, the relation between them is relevant. And Greece is the top, non muslim majority, country. Far above all other European countries.
Even if ADL is a joke, this should be an indication that things were never good in Greece, in regards to antisemitism. Especially since the data is from 2014-2015, probably near peak doomerism/evil jewish bankers/etc for greeks.
Does Greece has an anti-Semitism problem? Yes, unequivocally. We also have a much bigger Islamophobia problem. Beyond that, the “rankings” are meaningless.
In terms of policy, our government is one that straight up kills migrants at sea and allies itself with a genocidal apartheid regime.
The people taking action here did a good thing. It’s people like this that save Greek honour.
Even if there weren’t forced conscription, actions like this force the people from the aggressor country to face the reality of what their government is doing. If they are not welcome to vacation destinations and everywhere they go they are reminded that their country is proudly slaughtering and starving people—if they’re not given any room to pretend things are normal, they will demand an ability to return to normal. They would pressure their govt to stop the genocide.
So even in the case that these people hadn’t been conscripted and were therefore partially responsible for the apartheid being inflicted on Palestinians, this would still be an acceptable action.
Stop the genocide
Make the perpetrators and any supporters uncomfortable and unwelcome until they change.
Things are not normal right now. There is literally another holocaust happening. As we sit here typing on our phones. And you are defending the perpetrators. Only thinking of these people here as “Jews” and therefore the perpetually victims no matter what is what’s actually antisemitic.
You’re not an organic Jew, who is paying you to push this fucking bullshit that you like to spread around here, victimize yourself elsewhere you Fucking weirdo
I am no jew, i am a German christian and i recognize the patterns the so called “Palestine supporters” are using to spread their hate for Israel’s actions towards jews. You all who celebrate that this ship was turned away would have been proud Nazis back in the day. Think about yourself and think about where you would have stand in the 40s.
See, according to Germany’s political establishment and mainstream, you, an actual Jew, are antisemitic. The German establishment knows better than you. And there is absolutely nothing creepy or antisemitic in them telling you you’re a bad Jew.
Edit: not to mention that this person right here is probably feeling immense satisfaction at having been downvoted to oblivion. Because they are likely perceiving this whole thing as them taking a brave stand against antisemitism. This is them being pure rational Germans against antisemitic irrationality. That’s where we’re at.
Oh shit, a German who supports the ethnic cleansing performed by ICE and the ethnic cleansing performed by Israel. That makes you a literal fucking Nazi.
Meanwhile Israel is operating exactly as Nazi Germany in trying to eliminate an entire population. Those saying that this should not be commented on are complicit and actually are the same ones that would enthusiastically wave a German flag in the 40s. These are also the ones going after Jews today if they even try to criticize Israel. It’s disgusting and you’re basically accusing everyone of what you’re doing yourself.
You’re not even Jewish? You’re a German Christian and you’re out here trying to tell folks opposed to a genocidal regime what antisemitism looks like??? Get the fuck outta here.
Zionist. The words for you are Zionist and Nazi. Go read the bible fake Christian. Hell or purgatory await, the choice is yours. Not really, you literally are not capable of reading the entire bible so it’s not much of a choice.
Look, man I called what Israel was doing to Palestine a genocide when they first invaded, I really don’t know what point you’re trying to make here, genocide is being done by the Jewish people no matter how you sell it
We should also remember that Hamas was the aggressor, not the Palestinian people. Hamas does not represent all Palestinian people just like Israel does not represent all Jewish people.
History didn’t start on October 7th. “Hamas was the aggressor” is a false statement. Hamas is one of the belligerents in a war of occupation that’s been going on for a long long time.
What is disgusting I that you are conflating legitimate non violent pressure to the citizens of a genocidal state to do their duty as citizens with hatred towards Jews.
I hate Daniella Weiss but I love Larry David, does that make me an antisemite? You’re the disgusting one, learn to differentiate.
You ate nazi propaganda with a spoon in the 30s and you’re eating the same from the zionists now. Time to get your shit together.
What does Jesus say about starving children, Christian?
Why are you condoning genocide, Christian?
Even if Israel was 100% Jewish that doesn’t mean being anti Israel is the same as being anti Jewish. Only if every Israeli is Jewish and every Jew is Israeli are the two equivalent.
Just see all the Jews who are against the current Israeli genocide to understand the distinction.
Yes, you’re right. Taken completely out of context you just asked if there were many non-Jews in Israel. Absolutely. What does the context matter anyways? We should treat everything as an independent unrelated statement!
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Taking action against Israel is not antisemitic. As an anti-zionist Jew, I really don’t appreciate people conflating the two.
Is this taking action against Israel or against israelis. Would you be fine if your country’s government did something and then people who you dont know were aggressive towards you?
How does this action help Palestine in any way?
Greece is the most antisemitic, non muslim majority, country in the world. I am greek btw.
That’s been my whole life as an American. It’s part of the reason I try to convince my fellow Americans to stop voting for the terrible things we do.
Χέσε μας ρε που η Ελλάδα είναι η πιο αντισημιτική χώρα του κόσμου.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_by_country#Antisemitism_rates_by_nation
Το ADL είναι χαζός οργανισμός, τα νούμερα μπορεί να είναι λάθος, αλλά η σχέση ανάμεσα στα νούμερα νομίζω ότι είναι σχετικά σωστή. Υπόψιν, τα νούμερα είναι από το 2014-2015. Η Ελλάδα πάντα είχε θέμα με τον αντισημιτισμό και από τη άκρα δεξιά και από την άκρα αριστερά.
The ADL counts opposition to Israel as antisemitism. Any metric based on the IHRA definition is just garbage and propaganda.
Edit: the ADL is worse than “silly”. They are enablers of antisemitism so long as the antisemites are pro-Israeli. Zero credibility.
Edit2: you’re quoting a list that lists 93% of Palestinians as antisemites. What a fucking sick joke.
The percentages are irrelevant, the relation between them is relevant. And Greece is the top, non muslim majority, country. Far above all other European countries.
Even if ADL is a joke, this should be an indication that things were never good in Greece, in regards to antisemitism. Especially since the data is from 2014-2015, probably near peak doomerism/evil jewish bankers/etc for greeks.
Does Greece has an anti-Semitism problem? Yes, unequivocally. We also have a much bigger Islamophobia problem. Beyond that, the “rankings” are meaningless.
In terms of policy, our government is one that straight up kills migrants at sea and allies itself with a genocidal apartheid regime.
The people taking action here did a good thing. It’s people like this that save Greek honour.
If my government was committing genocide I would hide in the wood hoping not to get shot, not taking cruises, you fucking idiot
Can’t even commit a genocide and go on a cruise undisturbed after, what has this world come to
Are those soldiers or politicians on the cruise?
There is forced conscription in Israel, so yes most of them are usually current or ex IDF soldiers. Aka war criminals…
Yes
Even if there weren’t forced conscription, actions like this force the people from the aggressor country to face the reality of what their government is doing. If they are not welcome to vacation destinations and everywhere they go they are reminded that their country is proudly slaughtering and starving people—if they’re not given any room to pretend things are normal, they will demand an ability to return to normal. They would pressure their govt to stop the genocide.
So even in the case that these people hadn’t been conscripted and were therefore partially responsible for the apartheid being inflicted on Palestinians, this would still be an acceptable action.
Stop the genocide
Make the perpetrators and any supporters uncomfortable and unwelcome until they change.
Things are not normal right now. There is literally another holocaust happening. As we sit here typing on our phones. And you are defending the perpetrators. Only thinking of these people here as “Jews” and therefore the perpetually victims no matter what is what’s actually antisemitic.
You are joking, but the answer is yes.
Most of the passengers served in the IOF, most of them likely war criminals
Apartheid countries that practice conscription have very few adult civilians.
Don’t confuse hatred towards Israelis, Israeli policy, and Israeli supremacists with hatred towards jews in general. There is a difference.
Anti-Semitic comments should be reported, they will be removed.
Comments against Israeli policy and war crimes are allowed to stand.
Israeli != Jew
You’re being pretty antisemitic implying are jews are part of that genocidal country
Fify
You’re not an organic Jew, who is paying you to push this fucking bullshit that you like to spread around here, victimize yourself elsewhere you Fucking weirdo
I am no jew, i am a German christian and i recognize the patterns the so called “Palestine supporters” are using to spread their hate for Israel’s actions towards jews. You all who celebrate that this ship was turned away would have been proud Nazis back in the day. Think about yourself and think about where you would have stand in the 40s.
I AM JEWISH, lived in Israel, and will say that clearly
fuck you
Free Palestine
You are implying that genocide is a Jewish thing because protesting it is a protest against Judaism. In such case you are a massive antisemitic troll.
ISREAL WILL AND NEVER BE A REPRESTATION OF JEWS.
See, according to Germany’s political establishment and mainstream, you, an actual Jew, are antisemitic. The German establishment knows better than you. And there is absolutely nothing creepy or antisemitic in them telling you you’re a bad Jew.
Edit: not to mention that this person right here is probably feeling immense satisfaction at having been downvoted to oblivion. Because they are likely perceiving this whole thing as them taking a brave stand against antisemitism. This is them being pure rational Germans against antisemitic irrationality. That’s where we’re at.
Oh shit, a German who supports the ethnic cleansing performed by ICE and the ethnic cleansing performed by Israel. That makes you a literal fucking Nazi.
Meanwhile Israel is operating exactly as Nazi Germany in trying to eliminate an entire population. Those saying that this should not be commented on are complicit and actually are the same ones that would enthusiastically wave a German flag in the 40s. These are also the ones going after Jews today if they even try to criticize Israel. It’s disgusting and you’re basically accusing everyone of what you’re doing yourself.
You’re a german christian who sympathizes with ICE. You’re clearly more than a fan of your grandparents’ belief while the Fuhrer was around.
Seriously yall. Go back track through their profile. This is a person justifying the steps to genocide by being a “concerned german citizen”.
You’re not even Jewish? You’re a German Christian and you’re out here trying to tell folks opposed to a genocidal regime what antisemitism looks like??? Get the fuck outta here.
Zionist. The words for you are Zionist and Nazi. Go read the bible fake Christian. Hell or purgatory await, the choice is yours. Not really, you literally are not capable of reading the entire bible so it’s not much of a choice.
Where would you stand in the 40s? You seem to be very okay with a genocide of Palestinians right now so just wondering
Just because something was done to you does not make it fair or give you the right to do it to someone else.
Look, man I called what Israel was doing to Palestine a genocide when they first invaded, I really don’t know what point you’re trying to make here, genocide is being done by the Jewish people no matter how you sell it
Genocide is being done by Israel, not the Jewish people.
We should also remember that Hamas was the aggressor, not the Palestinian people. Hamas does not represent all Palestinian people just like Israel does not represent all Jewish people.
Pretty sure the agressor were the countries claiming Palestine in order to turn it into Israel back in 1948.
History didn’t start on October 7th. “Hamas was the aggressor” is a false statement. Hamas is one of the belligerents in a war of occupation that’s been going on for a long long time.
Hamas attacking the country illegally occupying theirs does not make them the aggressor. Just a small correction.
This is the language that was used by countries not affected by war in WW2 to turn away jews that tried to escape.
Germany is participating in genocide again. For the 2nd time in 100 years.
In 50 years there will be another monument in Berlin, apologizing for the victims of the Palestinian genocide.
*Hatred towards racist genocidal settlers FTFY
What is disgusting I that you are conflating legitimate non violent pressure to the citizens of a genocidal state to do their duty as citizens with hatred towards Jews.
Basic thinking skill:
A) Was the cruise ship turned around because the men were circumcised
B) It’s from a genocidal state?
I hate Daniella Weiss but I love Larry David, does that make me an antisemite? You’re the disgusting one, learn to differentiate. You ate nazi propaganda with a spoon in the 30s and you’re eating the same from the zionists now. Time to get your shit together. What does Jesus say about starving children, Christian? Why are you condoning genocide, Christian?
lol I seriously thought this was satire when I read this comment. Then I remembered people are this dense
How do you know the religion of cruise boat vacationers? Do they discriminate by religion?
It says Israeli, no religion was mentioned.
Exactly. Conflating hatred of a cruise boat to “hatred towards Jews” is disgusting, and Im calling our that bullshit.
Ah alright. Got you
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Yes, more than 25% are not Jewish
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Even if Israel was 100% Jewish that doesn’t mean being anti Israel is the same as being anti Jewish. Only if every Israeli is Jewish and every Jew is Israeli are the two equivalent.
Just see all the Jews who are against the current Israeli genocide to understand the distinction.
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Yes, you’re right. Taken completely out of context you just asked if there were many non-Jews in Israel. Absolutely. What does the context matter anyways? We should treat everything as an independent unrelated statement!
Yes, that boat was Jewish, got it wiener diced on birth, and doesn’t eat prok.
So the front fell off?
I get the reference
They are waving Israeli flags.
Israeli is not a religion.
Israeli constitution disagrees with you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Law:_Israel_as_the_Nation-State_of_the_Jewish_People
That’s not really what that says. You think this is a legitimate defense against genocide? Please answer yes or no.
The Israeli constitutions discriminates against non-Jews, and says that Israel is for Jews only.
The cruise ship was circumcised, duhh.
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Every accusation is an admission of guilt with these kinda people.
They are committing mass murder, so I understand the anger.