• Madison420@lemmy.world
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    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pejorative

    : a word or phrase that has negative connotations (see connotation sense 1) or that is intended to disparage or belittle : a pejorative word or phrase

    It’s sexist and so is man baby, you’re needlessly gendering shit to make it othered.

    You’re literally crying about me doing this to you, just don’t answer and moreover some come to me and cry like I’m making you participate.

    Yeah, effort… who needs that shit huh? The easy way is always the best way huh?

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      Asking you why you are asking me, when provided with professional sources is “literally crying about you doing this to me”? See, now you are doing exactly what I expressed in my first post on this. You are taking context clues and interpreting them to make a judgement call on me. This is what women who are being condescendingly explained things to them by men. Like some, you are misreading the person you are speaking to. I also notice the word slur isn’t in that definition. Highlighting that stuff isn’t the correction you might think it is, if I express a term to display my disapproval, it is demonstrating negative connotations, and belittling someone does not have inherent bigotry to it. If you are being condescending, you are belittling someone, so turn about is fair play. This is calling out your choice of actions. If I call a man, acting immaturely, a man-baby that is a statement about physical development, being grown, a man, vs a child, but they are acting in a way a child would. Same thing for woman-babies, or as they are more commonly known now, Karens, with Karen butting into other terms such as man-baby too. Mansplaining doesn’t have centuries of intense persecution, torture, slavery, and many other awful things, things happening to this day, behind it. You are putting mansplaining on that level. Even if I agreed it was misandry, this would be a serious miss-equivocation.

      “Yeah, effort… who needs that shit huh? The easy way is always the best way huh?”

      Yes clearly, I provided the way to get professional answers about the subject you are asking for, that is the best way to get information, in this case. I can lead you to water, but can’t make you drink. You seem to be thinking I should also scoop up the water, and pour it down your throat for you. I am asking why you think being given a means of answering your questions, from the best possible sources, is dodging your question, or why you would desire random assholes’ takes on the subject, rather than professional ones. This makes no sense, unless you have some ulterior motive. You ask for answers, I provide a means to get the best ones that can be achieved in this context, you then insist randos on a forum answer instead.

      • Madison420@lemmy.world
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        I didn’t ask you anything, I posed an open question you responded to and continue to respond to with walls of text largely about your indignation that I would respond. Similarly use a thesaurus the hard r is also pejorative term.

        “woman-babies” gotcha so you’re just a sexist because those are also specifically sexist terms.

        Mansplaining doesn’t have centuries of intense persecution, torture, slavery, and many other awful things, things happening to this day, behind it.You are putting mansplaining on that level. Even if I agreed it was misandry, this would be a serious miss-equivocation.

        So nothing is offensive unless there’s a history of bigoted use? similarly no one said they are the same but it is a sexist term and the person using it a sexist.

        No one is asking for a professional, I’m asking people here that are comfortable using a sexist term why that is, no paper is going to tell me that.

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          I’m asking people here that are comfortable using a sexist term why that is, no paper is going to tell me that.

          This wasn’t what you asked, initially, you are moving the goalposts, because a slur is a pejorative doesn’t mean a pejorative has to be a slur, slurs are also considered swear words, are all swear words slurs, and no I didn’t say something has to have a history of bigotry to simply be offensive, I said that in order for mansplaining to be comparable to the n word it has to carry that weight.

          Goalpost shifting, lying about what you originally asked, false equivalence, and so on. You asked why people thought mansplaining wasn’t sexist originally, pointed you to papers on that, you insisted random people instead tell you why, then you moved course to saying that there being negative connotations in a term, it is bigoted, now you claim the question was why people are comfortable using the phrase, which it wasn’t.

          Have fun being determined to not seek professional information on the use of mansplaining and why, while it may be a mean things to say, it isn’t misandry.