• PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.org
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    3 hours ago

    For one you should look up what irony and hyperbole means

    I had no reason to believe that you were being hyperbolic or ironic.

    For two in first world countries the rich only very mildly have more influence than that of the common for the multitude of laws ensuring so!

    Yeah you’re living in Opposite World. Do you actually live in the US? I do, and I have for my entire life. Please look into the Epstein files, the Panama Papers, Elon Musk and DOGE and Donald Trump. You will see very quickly that protection of the rich from the consequences of their actions is the defining feature of the United States, regardless of which party is in power or who the figurehead is.

    Are the rich an evil entity meant to corrupt the world?

    No, they are a self-interested group of powerful people who share a common interest of maintaining the status quo. Whatever their internal state, evil or otherwise, this makes them my enemies.

    Should they be hated for resisting that in an individualistic world in which people freeze and starve on the streets?

    Yes!

    And from those who believe so I would ask what they do for the common

    Yeah but I don’t take anything from common people by…existing as a working class person? In contrast, the capitalist class continuously takes everything from the workers of the world. They steal our labor, paywall our knowledge, put all our natural resources behind fences and people with guns, and use their control to destroy our planet and make it uninhabitable for everyone.

    And in your fantasy how does the rich benefit for enforcing jaywalking, which apparently only colored folk do?

    Firstly, I want to clarify that I did not mean to imply that people of color actually are more likely to jaywalk. I meant to make two connected points:

    1. The police use bullshit offenses like jaywalking to harass black and brown people.
    2. Jaywalking is historically one of those bullshit offenses, and it was specifically designed to entrench car-centric culture.

    (1) is deep historical fact. Especially in America, the police are designed from the ground up to harass black and brown people because anti-black racism is foundational to every iteration of the United States.

    For (2), here is the literal second paragraph of the Wikipedia article on jaywalking:

    The arrival of the automobile in the opening decades of the 20th century led to increasingly deadly conflicts in the street, and the public was generally unsympathetic to motorists or to early attempts to legislate pedestrian behavior.[2][3] In response, the US automobile industry and associated organizations undertook public campaigns to identify pedestrians, often impugned as jay-walkers, as a problem to be managed in the new automotive age.[2] The first widely successful criminalization of jaywalking was enacted in Los Angeles in 1925, using legislation drafted by the auto lobby that inspired similar ordinances in other American cities.[2]


    I’m currently reading a book called Our Enemies in Blue by Kristian Williams. Williams has created an incredibly detailed, nuanced, and well-cited book about the history of policing, obviously from an abolitionist standpoint. Of course I developed my views on police before starting this book based on my experiences, the news, and other sources, but it is still an enlightening read. Please add this to your reading list.

    • theUwUhugger@lemmy.world
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      -Weakest excuse I have ever heard, there is no shame in learning -I don’t live in the US, I said I live in a first world country; corruption of the few is not descriptive of all -Every group is self interested and cery very few extremist groups want to topple the status quo as such changes historically always ended in turmoil -You don’t give either to society, yet you ask for more from it! And the rest is not true! Your labor is not stolen you are willingly selling it to the entity you choose; discovering knowledge takes resources, its distribution takes resources, if the cycle was not self sustaining then there would be no new discoveries…