Is this the right place for this? This is just my own ranting and sour grapes about my own self-involved Lemmy drama situation. If it’s not appropriate, let me know.

Anyway, here’s how to make someone look like an asshole:

  1. Post something wrong, but also aligned against Israel. In this case, propose that any claim of rape of Israeli civilians on October 7th is a “false account.”
  2. Wait for people to correct the false claim because they care about the truth. Push back a little. Let things play out as they do.
  3. Go somewhere else, and report that the person is taking this pro-Israel stance, so clearly they’re a genocide supporting turbolib. Let people agree with you, and let the reputational damage ensue.

This works incredibly well. As far as I can tell, there are users on Lemmy who almost everyone (everyone who cares about this kind of thing) thinks are Israel-supporters just because of skillful repeated use of this tactic. I even specifically told this user that I was aware of what they were doing, and literally just wanted to send them the UN report and then disengage because they were wrong. They still managed to seize on a single word I used and spin it up into this claim that I was “running around citing that UN report” and spin up a little echo chamber of people who are convinced that I’m the turbolib now.

Great stuff

  • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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    16 hours ago

    Eh, don’t worry. People like this fight each other at least as much as outsiders. They’ll undo themselves before they can do any real damage.

    Pug isn’t even a mod listed on that community.

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      13 hours ago

      My word filters reliably block 3rd of my front page here. Includes every keyword seen here and much more.

    • PhilipTheBucket@quokk.auOP
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      1 day ago

      Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in. “It’s just one simple job,” they said…

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      It’s not just trolling and drama though. I just don’t feel like ceding the narrative space to whoever can pull off the most clever ruse. Like, the truth is important. I know hoping for the internet to be reasonable and trusted is hopeless, but it just bugs me to see people deliberately spinning up this (very effective) total alternate reality about something that matters, on purpose, and having other people buy into it. To this very slight extent, I’m infuriated by it.

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    1 day ago

    I wouldn’t take it personally, Lemmy has a number of people who do dumb shit and make provocative accusations trying to stir up drama. Especially around Israel, there seems to be this phenomenon where some people get locked into this simple good vs evil thinking that motivates a lot of shitty behavior.

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      1 day ago

      motivates a lot of shitty behavior

      Indeed

      You are pretty much completely correct, though. It is (or should be) only mildly infuriating.

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        Oh, I’m definitely an asshole. But that doesn’t make what I say untrue. If they feel like they look like an asshole, it’s probably because of something they said, not whatever other people are saying about them.