• notsure@fedia.io
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    1 day ago

    men do not exist, humans who can birth and humans who cannot…you’re argument falls flat because “men” choose to be men, not just humans with masculine characteristics…

    • rockerface🇺🇦@lemmy.cafe
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      So every child is a man until they hit puberty, noted. And after menopause, every woman is automatically turned into a man.

      Can we stop relating people’s identities to what’s happening between their legs?

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        23 hours ago

        it amazes me how you miss the point entirely, “man” and “woman” are chosen due to society…there are people…some can give birth, some can’t…we as a society have chosen to separate them into ‘men’ and ‘women’…the fact that we discuss this makes the whole biologic irrelevant…

    • I’m all for abolishing gender, and I firmly believe that gender is a social construct, but that doesn’t mean gender is a choice (at least currently), nor does it mean that genders/men don’t exist.

      Just because you and I feel that gender is useless to us (and arguably to society) doesn’t mean others have to feel the same way. Gender is oppressive, but it doesn’t have to be

      What it means to be “a man” is not the same as all the toxic bullshit currently associated with being a man. Trans men should be allowed to identify as men without it also meaning that they’re bad people.