No one is “letting him”. There are dozens of active cases against him and his administration, right now. The process takes time, and the media never covers it adequately…but the system is still working.
If the system were working Cannon could not have effectively blocked Trump’s prosecution.
If the system were working the leader of an insurrection against the government of the United States could not have even RUN for President, much less BEEN SWORN IN.
If the system were working the personal attorney for the most vile and morally corrupt President in our nation’s history would not have been NONINATED, much less CONFIRMED to a federal appellate court.
THE SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING. Any conclusions predicated on another other assumption are simply wrong.
So…do you agree with Trump when he tries to suspend or ignore the legal process? Is that your solution? Just, “as long as it’s us doing it, it’s fine”?
It’s kind of bizarre to advocate for the very same shit he’s pulling, as a defense against the kind of shit he keeps trying to pull.
you’re right that the system is working. it is giving us its ultimate: fascism. this is the intended outcome for profit seeking capitalists. if you mean to say our system of American justice is working… surely you jest.
Dude. That’s literally the same argument Trump was using for why he should be allowed to just deport people without due process. This is not the “solution” you think it is.
No, I’m saying that the basic principles of law and justice shouldn’t be abandoned just because there are people in the world who try and game the system.
It seems like everyone these days, agrees with Trump’s vision of what the law should look like. My side gets a pass…and everyone I think is “bad”, gets their rights taken away. People just seem to disagree about who should be punished without due process.
It’s not a “moral high ground” issue. It’s basic common sense. You want a legal system that’s based on facts? You want people’s rights to be respected? You can’t have those things, if you throw them all out the window anytime things don’t work out exactly the way you want them to.
Those are the things you have to fight to protect. If every law that got broken, meant the law was pointless…then we would have no laws.
It seems like everyone these days, agrees with Trump’s vision of what the law should look like. My side gets a pass…and everyone I think is “bad”, gets their rights taken away.
This is not what’s happening here. Nobody (on the left) is giving any side a “pass”. What the fuck is this strawman?
I’m talking about selectively assigning who gets their rights protected, and who doesn’t. Who deserves due process, and who doesn’t. The only way any of this can be considered “legitimate” is if it applies to everyone…not just the ones you think “deserve it”.
He’s breaking the law all over the US, when you’re rich… they let you. This is no different. Let’s see some consequences somewhere.
No one is “letting him”. There are dozens of active cases against him and his administration, right now. The process takes time, and the media never covers it adequately…but the system is still working.
If the system were working Cannon could not have effectively blocked Trump’s prosecution. If the system were working the leader of an insurrection against the government of the United States could not have even RUN for President, much less BEEN SWORN IN. If the system were working the personal attorney for the most vile and morally corrupt President in our nation’s history would not have been NONINATED, much less CONFIRMED to a federal appellate court.
THE SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING. Any conclusions predicated on another other assumption are simply wrong.
This is why we’re doomed. I cannot believe there are people who still think like this
He won’t realize until they come for him. People like him are how it happens
isn’t it disgusting? depressing as hell how these people still feel so confident in “the system.”
So…do you agree with Trump when he tries to suspend or ignore the legal process? Is that your solution? Just, “as long as it’s us doing it, it’s fine”?
It’s kind of bizarre to advocate for the very same shit he’s pulling, as a defense against the kind of shit he keeps trying to pull.
Remember this exchange.
you’re right that the system is working. it is giving us its ultimate: fascism. this is the intended outcome for profit seeking capitalists. if you mean to say our system of American justice is working… surely you jest.
That’s entirely the point. Legal channels are too show to counteract everything at once. See Bannon’s “stress test”.
Dude. That’s literally the same argument Trump was using for why he should be allowed to just deport people without due process. This is not the “solution” you think it is.
So you’re saying we should “go high”… How has that been working out thus far?
No, I’m saying that the basic principles of law and justice shouldn’t be abandoned just because there are people in the world who try and game the system.
It seems like everyone these days, agrees with Trump’s vision of what the law should look like. My side gets a pass…and everyone I think is “bad”, gets their rights taken away. People just seem to disagree about who should be punished without due process.
It’s not a “moral high ground” issue. It’s basic common sense. You want a legal system that’s based on facts? You want people’s rights to be respected? You can’t have those things, if you throw them all out the window anytime things don’t work out exactly the way you want them to.
Those are the things you have to fight to protect. If every law that got broken, meant the law was pointless…then we would have no laws.
This is not what’s happening here. Nobody (on the left) is giving any side a “pass”. What the fuck is this strawman?
I’m talking about selectively assigning who gets their rights protected, and who doesn’t. Who deserves due process, and who doesn’t. The only way any of this can be considered “legitimate” is if it applies to everyone…not just the ones you think “deserve it”.