• Gladaed@feddit.org
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    21 hours ago

    Also Leviticus is old testament. So this is less relevant/generally superceded by newer text.

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      8 hours ago

      Because the New Testament is better? The NT is especially sexist towards women. Like:

      • they need to be quiet (1 Cor 14:34-35)
      • they can’t divorce but men can (Matthew 5:32 and 19:9) and it implies she has no autonomy since his act alters how she is viewed
      • also 1 Timothy 2:9-15 is quite the ride, with dressing modestly to worship God, be quiet, fully submit, no teaching a man, be quiet again, men came first, women sinned first, and only birthing children can save them.

      Holy shit. Those are just a few.


      But it is true the Old Testament is quite the doozy.

      We gotta go back to the good Old Testament for one of my favs (Genesis 19):

      Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house. They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”

      Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing. Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.”

      Then later his wife was turned to salt cause she bad (because of course only women do bad things, didn’t yiu know? /s). Then his daughters, who had been spared what you read above, wound up getting their dad drunk and fucking him in a cave to continue the bloodline.

      Now, realize this whole story is being told cause Lot was the right God-loving soul they just HAD to save before Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed. Everyone else was “worse?”

      The lesson I was taught when I was younger was that Lots daughters were evil and this was in zero way Lots fault (the incest). He apparently didn’t raise them to be that way. You know, with his attitude of “please fuck my daughters and spare the rest.” Somehow their actions were in no way reflective of his character as a father.

      Also we ignore the part where he tried to give them away to be raped by an entire town.

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        7 hours ago

        Lot’s offer to the mob was meant to be an allegorical lesson on obligations to guests. Basically a hyperbolic ‘this is how far you have go to protect guests in your house.’ In the modern age it would be a hotel clerk holding off a mob with a shotgun or something like that.

        I’m not sure if the cave incest had a lesson behind it, but the impetus was his daughters thought they were the last people on earth and were trying to restart the population themselves. I don’t think they were meant to be seen as evil for it.

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      15 hours ago

      Only for Christians. I would assume this still holds for Jewish people, as well as some christians who still holds to the Old Testament due to Jesus saying that the old text will not be superceded.

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        7 hours ago

        For reference, here’s that verse, Matthew 5:18:

        For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

        Thats the KJV, here’s a NKJV:

        For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.

        Here’s a bunch of other translations:

        https://biblehub.com/matthew/5-18.htm

        Absolutely tons of branches/denominations use this to justify upholding whatever their particular interpretation of whatever law they perceive from the Old Testament, the Tanakh/Torah.

        ‘The law’ is literally what Torah means in Hebrew, the Torah is the first five books of the Old Testament, The Tanakh broadly is the entire Hebrew Bible.