It blows my mind how US americans just accept that they are having such a high murder rate at all.
Genuine question (for you or anyone else with the same mentality): what would you do? Everyone on this website talks about how weird Americans are for just “being ok with everything going on” when in fact most of us aren’t and have practically no ability to do anything about it that doesn’t result in our own immediate death.
Besides, “amass enough capital (in a system designed to prevent you from amassing capital) to leave this shitty country”, what would you actually do? Since it’s mind blowing that we’re not doing it and all…
(Sorry if this comes across as angry or directed at you, it’s frustrating to live in a dumpster fire and read comments all day from people not in the dumpster fire implying that I’m just totally ok with said dumpster fire.)
There are multiple factors contributing to high murder rates:
Guns: ban them.
Mental health: provide free support for mental health issue, including a phone number where people can safely report friends and relatives in crisis. Today if you report, they send police officers totally untrained and unprepared for these situations and that easily ends up in drama
Gangs: a lot of the murders are gang members against gang members. There is no miraculous solution to that. But I would advocate: decriminalize possession of small amounts of drugs, provide shooting rooms with support (both physical and mental) freely available. I would even support offering drugs substitutes for free under control. If the drug price collapses, their business collapses.
So: vote for someone who will support social science based policies.
I’m sorry there are no easier way. “Get tough on crime” is the solution that was experimented the most and has proven again and again to be inefficient.
Edit: you may already be doing that, don’t take this as an assumption you don’t. I understand the frustration and that feeling of being powerless while people ask you “why aren’t you DOING something about it?”.
As an individual: Definitely leave. Generally I think some people ought to shut up and get the hell out instead of impotently complaining online.
I think what these posters are asking about, though, is how it is possible that the American people in aggregate support this system? And they do. Just like how about half of Israelis support Netanyahu. Sure sure. Electoral college, voting system, bla bla. Trump won the popular vote against Harris. How? This is clearly an electorate that itself is the problem. The people of the US doesn’t suffer under its government. The people of the US suffers because it chooses to.
you act as if leaving a country like the US, and emigrating to another is that easy? its not the EU where you can move much more freely in the continent. cultural, financial, language barriers exists.
Genuine question (for you or anyone else with the same mentality): what would you do? Everyone on this website talks about how weird Americans are for just “being ok with everything going on” when in fact most of us aren’t and have practically no ability to do anything about it that doesn’t result in our own immediate death.
Besides, “amass enough capital (in a system designed to prevent you from amassing capital) to leave this shitty country”, what would you actually do? Since it’s mind blowing that we’re not doing it and all…
(Sorry if this comes across as angry or directed at you, it’s frustrating to live in a dumpster fire and read comments all day from people not in the dumpster fire implying that I’m just totally ok with said dumpster fire.)
There are multiple factors contributing to high murder rates:
So: vote for someone who will support social science based policies.
I’m sorry there are no easier way. “Get tough on crime” is the solution that was experimented the most and has proven again and again to be inefficient.
Edit: you may already be doing that, don’t take this as an assumption you don’t. I understand the frustration and that feeling of being powerless while people ask you “why aren’t you DOING something about it?”.
You are not wrong about 2 and 3. But right now banning guns will make the other side of the issue worse: the police.
As an individual: Definitely leave. Generally I think some people ought to shut up and get the hell out instead of impotently complaining online.
I think what these posters are asking about, though, is how it is possible that the American people in aggregate support this system? And they do. Just like how about half of Israelis support Netanyahu. Sure sure. Electoral college, voting system, bla bla. Trump won the popular vote against Harris. How? This is clearly an electorate that itself is the problem. The people of the US doesn’t suffer under its government. The people of the US suffers because it chooses to.
I literally don’t have the money to leave
Leave to become an immigrant in another country that ends up deporting us?
Using all this money that we don’t have?
Bringing our direct family with us, tearing them away from friendships and other family?
Cool idea
I see you want to live in the US after all. Valid thing to do. But don’t complain about the consequences.
you act as if leaving a country like the US, and emigrating to another is that easy? its not the EU where you can move much more freely in the continent. cultural, financial, language barriers exists.
And what about the consequences of leaving? You expect me to think the US is the only country that has been becoming more hostile to immigrants?