• aceshigh@lemmy.world
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      Christian’s believe that the only good Christian is a persecuted one. So they create chaos to be persecuted. This mental gymnastics hurts my back.

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        No, they think not being on a pedestal and having their unwarranted privileges slowly peeled away means they are “persecuted”.

        They also think it’s “persecution” when they cannot brainwash other people’s children while in captivity at public schools.

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          They also think it’s persecution when other people aren’t forced to follow their religion, like when gay marriage is allowed

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            100% this. They simply cannot comprehend that in a secular nation, their rules are for THEM and not for anyone else that isn’t in their little book club.

            But they don’t want the country to remain secular - they want to “fundamentally change America” (remember when the scary Blah man said that and how terrified they all were - more projection) so that the rules of their little book club are imposed on everyone else.

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            Very true - I know some xtians just about lose their minds when a “world religions” class is discussed, or talking about “the” bible as literature.

            The notion that their chosen lifestyle were to be put on equal footing to other mythologies in an educational setting is just mind-boggling to them and absolutely enrages many of them.

            xtians: “We want religion back in the public schools!”

            normal Americans: “How about we teach kids about xtianity in the context of other religions? And have “the” bible included as part of Western literature?”

            xtians: “NOOOOOOO! NOT LIKE THAT!”

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      Only some Christians. I don’t recall the Quakers ever having persecuted anyone. And the various Anabaptist spin-offs don’t persecute anyone but themselves.

      It’s the ones with power that get up to evil shit.

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        It is a very common thing about them. More and more people can see it. If a regressive accuses someone of doing something. Its a sure bet they are doing or planning to do that something to others.

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    The universe is pretty big. Robin shot up that church school (armchair psychology) because religion and the religulous told her that she was an abomination and not welcome. Then tRump’s go’ment did the same. I’m sure her peers did the same. Then without mental health access and weak gun laws and a thirst for revenge - then the MAGAts blame DEI.

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    Not on Earth, of course. But when you add up all the persecuted Christians orbiting Alpha Centauri and Romulus and Omicron Persei Eight…

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    Where was she in 2017 when white supremacists firebombed that mosque in Minneapolis? How about it being legal to forbid Jews from enrolling at medical schools in Minnesota until the 1950s?

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      I thought Mormons get their own planet, but other xtians don’t consider LDS “real” xtians, LOL, so there is that.

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        The issue is that Mormons and other Christians seem to have differing views on who counts as a Christian. Most Christian sects use the Nicene Creed, which includes the basic set of beliefs all (or almost all, depending on your view ofc) Christian sects adhere to. Mormonism diverges from the Nicene Creed:

        • they don’t believe in one God (Mormons believe that humans have the capability to become Gods, and that God was mortal at one time and had His own God),
        • they don’t believe that God made the universe (they simply believe that He organized it),
        • and they don’t believe that God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are one substance (they believe that They are three distinct beings).

        Mormonism, on the other hand, seems to believe that Christianity is simply accepting Jesus as a prophet sent by God and the Bible as holy scripture…but by that logic Muslims would also be considered Christians.

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          And I’m sure Mormons and other xtians that are not necessarily Nicean xtians might just say to those objecting that they are not “true” xtians: “well, that’s like your opinion, man…” Or words to that effect. 🤣

          I could easily see them pointing out - and probably many have; I have not read Mormon apologetics, though - that the Nicean Council was extra-biblical and put to a vote in a political atmosphere. Meaning, while the Book of Mormon is certainly a retcon (at least in my view), it can easily be argued that so is the Nicene Creed.

          It makes a lot of sense why the ability for people to read “the” bible in their own language was something frowned on and often actively stamped out - under threat of death, even. Once the people are able to read the supposed holy documents for themselves, they are going to naturally start having their own interpretation of things, as well as start writing more fanfic to extend the cinematic universe of the original text(s)…it also explains why the printing press was followed by an explosion of xtian forks (or heresies, depending on the viewer’s position).

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            Aside from knowing a lot of mormons in the 90s, i found this:

            the person who shared it claims it’s from a book called Tribes published in 1992. That tells me it’s from The Lost Tribes (1992) by R. Clayton Brough, page 148
            also:

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              Hrm, interesting. I happen to know many current and ex-LDS and I’ve never heard them say they are not xtians, and I’ve seen more than a few chafe at being called a “cult” and/or “not true xtians”, etc…I could see that above passage being read as lumping all other xtians into a group, but… 🤷

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                oh yeah they will and always have chafed at being called a cult. the whole “not true xtian thing”, that i saw them caring about around 2005 i think? there’s been lots of “Joey Smith is the new Mohammad” over the decades

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      My days off are Saturn-day and Sun-day. Like all the other days of the week in English, those names have a pre-Christian origin.

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        Yes but the reason they’re holidays is Christian. And I was also referring to Christmas and Easter

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          And I was also referring to Christmas and Easter

          Yule and Eostre? The early Christians didn’t celebrate either (well, some did celebrate Pesach to some limited extent). They later did a hostile takeover of the pre-Christian soltitial and equinoctial festivities, in order to make sure nobody had any fun at them. They also converted a number of minor gods into saints (mostly now deprecated by the Catholic Church, but some still hanging around in Orthodox sects).

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        Let’s also take off Moon-day, Tiw’s day (Germanic Mars God of war), wOdin’s day, Thor’s day and Frigga’s day (Odin’s wife).

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    oh. sure sure. of course. and their most perfect adherents like donald trump have suffered the biggest witch hunts in all of history. So sick of all those other religions doing the witch hunts on the good christian men whose virtue is beyond reproach no matter how many times they went to pedo peninsula or just straight out talked about it during interviews in their life. epstein files. epstein files.

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      Thoughts and prayers shall help, right?

      Edit: also, now is not the time for political action, we need at least 50 days from the last shooting, I think.

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    Neopagans, Zoroastrians, Jews, Middle Eastern Bahá’ís, Muslims outside the Middle East, followers of indigenous religions, Sikhs:

    "Am I a joke to you?" reaction image

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    So persecuted that they managed to colonize every continent and force their religious laws on people who were there first