• Katana314@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    How do modern kids even develop a signature? They used to teach cursive and it’s based on that, but cursive isn’t used anymore

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      14 hours ago

      Signatures aren’t as important as people think they are. You can sign with literally anything and no one will care. The only time it may come up is if there’s some kind of dispute and then someone asks you “is this your signature” and you say yes. Crisis over.

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        13 hours ago

        there’s some kind of dispute and then someone asks you “is this your signature” and you say yes. Crisis over.

        “(…)by signing this document, you are also acknowledging that Apple may sew your mouth to the butthole of another iTunes user. Apple and its subsidiaries may also, if necessary, sew yet another person’s mouth onto your butthole, making you a being that shares one gastral tract.”

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        12 hours ago

        I mean it just needs to be unique. Otherwise what’s stopping someone else from pretending to be you (if they got control of some other credentials) or weaseling out of something you did in fact sign for.

        To quote Mr burns “you can’t all sign with an x”.

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          11 hours ago

          Same thing that’s stopping them now. Nothing. That isn’t a very good deterrent for those things

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          11 hours ago

          Your signature will never be unique, each time you sign there will be small variations. It’s really not that hard to produce a convincing signature if you have good penmanship, and even easier if it’s a digital scan.

          I’ve owned fountain pens since I was little, and I usually use some deep blue ink that fits the “only black or blue ink” criteria but is particular enough that I am able to tell with confidence if it is or not the ink I was using, and forensic analysis could verifiably tell. The one I’ve used the most oxides into copper colors, I love it so much.

          For digital documents, I use PGP. I don’t care if it’s dorky, if I think I could have the need to demonstrate that I said or was told something at a specific date, I will generate and store a signed version, or attach it to an email as appropriate. I care more about the cryptographic guarantees of digital signatures than the legal guarantees of paper signatures anyway

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      9 hours ago

      Your signature is your mark. Uniquely identifying. It doesn’t need to be your name.

      I originally signed with name and last name plus a squiggle. I got tired of that and many years ago I changed it to my 4 letter first name barely legible. Way better more consistent than the variance writing my full name.

      Butnintinknwe aware saying the same. Cursive is illegible, so. A bunch of squiggles is good enough. Some people call it cursive.

      Note: other than nostalgia, I don’t understand why cursive. Barely legible even by the original writer.

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        At one point mine was barely legible cursive. Now it’s a bunch of squiggly lines that barely even resembles cursive at all.

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        4 hours ago

        I used to sign my name in cursive, but its legibility as actual letters disappeared over the same time span as my forgetting how to write cursive altogether. Now it vaguely resembles a capital K followed by a bunch of random shit. It does at least look pretty much the same every time.

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        13 hours ago

        Write name, but sloppily. My brain will always be lazy in the same way, so the signature just ends up looking approximately the same every time. So basically, lots of squigglies too, but I’ll get the ascenders and descenders.