Pro-death penalty, gender-specific application, and ignoring due process probably puts this on the right.
Plenty of people on the left advocate for self-defense even to the point of lethal force but almost all of those would want an investigation and trial, and that probably means holding the killer in jail until a bond hearing. Carte blanche trust that the killer was justified is something unlikely to be offered outside of individualist people with a very strong distrust of the government to interfere with people’s lives, and those tend to be on the right. It also implies women need a legal exception as a vulnerable group which reinforces the traditional idea that they are dependent on external protection.
very well. i shall now falsely claim rape to murder someone, and since the victim has no way of proving innocence (on account of being dead), they would have lost the right to due process anyways, and then i get away with it scot-free since it is now legal for me to kill my “rapist”.
the “false rape agenda” is an incel fascist rhetoric pushed by MRA activists
Maybe today. But you said you wanted to do away with due process for murder. What do you think due process is?
Your position here is every bit as ludicrous as Trumpists saying “immigrants don’t deserve due process because they entered the country illegally”. Ignoring the fact that some of the people being deported had a legal right to be there that could have been proven if they were given their basic due process rights.
libertarians would agree with this, but the anarchist ones. it’s kinda pathetic to claim that self-defense is a right-wing position. one could only reach that conclusion if they believed that the police already protect rape victims and therefore there’s no need for us to protect ourselves.
If this had been “people should have the right to kill thieves / cyclists / trespassers / basically anything else”, I’d have said “right”, but OP’s statement requires the acknowledgement that women are people and rape is wrong, so… left, but maybe my bar has just become far too low.
If this had been “people should have the right to kill thieves / cyclists / trespassers / basically anything else”, I’d have said “right”, but OP’s statement requires the acknowledgement that women are people and rape is wrong, so… left, but maybe my bar has just become far too low.
women should have the right to kill their rapists without ever seeing a day in jail
Pro-death penalty, gender-specific application, and ignoring due process probably puts this on the right.
Plenty of people on the left advocate for self-defense even to the point of lethal force but almost all of those would want an investigation and trial, and that probably means holding the killer in jail until a bond hearing. Carte blanche trust that the killer was justified is something unlikely to be offered outside of individualist people with a very strong distrust of the government to interfere with people’s lives, and those tend to be on the right. It also implies women need a legal exception as a vulnerable group which reinforces the traditional idea that they are dependent on external protection.
why limit to women?
where’s the due process?
wouldn’t this open an avenue for getting away with murder using rape as an excuse and therefore also degrading the severity of actual rape cases?
very well. i shall now falsely claim rape to murder someone, and since the victim has no way of proving innocence (on account of being dead), they would have lost the right to due process anyways, and then i get away with it scot-free since it is now legal for me to kill my “rapist”.
idk, to me it just sounds like you’re rabidly defending the right of rapists to escape any consequences.
the “false rape agenda” is an incel fascist rhetoric pushed by MRA activists so thank you for outing yourself as one of their enablers
Maybe today. But you said you wanted to do away with due process for murder. What do you think due process is?
Your position here is every bit as ludicrous as Trumpists saying “immigrants don’t deserve due process because they entered the country illegally”. Ignoring the fact that some of the people being deported had a legal right to be there that could have been proven if they were given their basic due process rights.
oh, no, i’m just massively in support of legally killing anyone i want, so thanks for giving me an easy and legal way to do it!
sounds like there was nothing stopping you beyond social decorum so you can’t blame that on others. that’s all you baby
Left
This is absolutely a right wing take, tons of libertarians would agree with this
libertarians would agree with this, but the anarchist ones. it’s kinda pathetic to claim that self-defense is a right-wing position. one could only reach that conclusion if they believed that the police already protect rape victims and therefore there’s no need for us to protect ourselves.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/william-gillis-what-s-in-a-slogan-kylr-and-militant-anarcha-feminism
If this had been “people should have the right to kill thieves / cyclists / trespassers / basically anything else”, I’d have said “right”, but OP’s statement requires the acknowledgement that women are people and rape is wrong, so… left, but maybe my bar has just become far too low.
I don’t think that’s a position I’d classify as left… Curious as to your reasoning.
If this had been “people should have the right to kill thieves / cyclists / trespassers / basically anything else”, I’d have said “right”, but OP’s statement requires the acknowledgement that women are people and rape is wrong, so… left, but maybe my bar has just become far too low.
Why limit that to women?
Rapist just shows up as PVE for anyone in their vicinity? Not a bad idea.
Why limit that to “their.”
because it only makes sense in a self-defense situation