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zabadoh@ani.social to Not The Onion@lemmy.worldEnglish · 21 hours ago

FBI to Categorize Trans People As "Nihilistic Violent Extremist" Threat Group, Report Says

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  • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
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    Honestly, the FBI has been doing brainworms shit for decades. This is way worse now obviously but lets not retcon the former legitimacy of the FBI. It is NOT there to keep us safe and it never has been. The FBI always has been a tool of oppression for the rightwing.

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    They practice all of these things in front of a mirror I bet

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    Trans friends, this is the time to consider doing what you need to to protect yourselves. I would be looking at what it takes to emigrate somewhere safer.

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      It is time for us all to step the fuck up and protect trans people, ESPECIALLY if you yourself aren’t trans.

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      It’s also the time for allies to step up and organize. This is everyone’s battle for rights and trans people can’t be left to fight it on their own.

      • SabinStargem@lemmy.today
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        Organizing is the biggest issue, IMO. I don’t have much experience with humanity in person. I was raised in a isolated rural territory, and don’t have enough money to explore third spaces for likeminded folks about the situation. Figuring out HOW to network is a huge issue if you aren’t connected enough to society.

        What churches align with justice? Which coffee shops embrace freedom? Among the militias, whom among them are antifa?

        While I am practicing a firearm with the expectation of someday serving as a ReUnion soldier against the NeoConfederates, I don’t know how to bridge the gap between being an lone individual and part of a Rainbow Panther militia.

  • quick_snail@feddit.nl
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    Who put this dumbass fox in charge of watching the hen house?

    • brax@sh.itjust.works
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      American voters when they elected one to run their country.

  • Jessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Where is this leading to? Camps? Is that really going to happen?

    • Typhoon@lemmy.ca
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      Yes.

      They already built the camps, and are building more. You didn’t think they were all for “immigrants” did you? ICE has a yearly budget of about 37 billion dollars. There’s no way they would need that much funding if they were only deporting people in the country illegally. This has always been about persecuting minorities.

      First they came for the illegal immigrants.

      Then they came for the trans community.

      They’ve already started canceling anyone speaking out against them and will target their political opponents. We’re well into the Nazi consolidation of power phase of the takeover.

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        ICE is planned to get 200B this year

    • TXL@sopuli.xyz
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      They already have camps. In plain sight. With tailored procedures. They don’t need to build anything, it’s available as a commercial service.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_people_in_prison

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        A 2018 report from the Indiana Maurer University School of Law, along with a subsequent report in the UCLA Journal of Gender and Law, found that, based on accounts of former inmates, it was common for trans women placed in men’s prisons to be assigned to cells with aggressive cisgender male cellmates to maintain social control and to, as one inmate described it, “keep the violence rate down”. Trans women used in this manner are often raped daily. This process is known as “V-coding”, and has been described as so common that it is effectively “a central part of a trans woman’s sentence”.

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      Nah. I have bolt cutters and I ain’t a bitch.

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    Cash Hotel, a fuck-eyed dickhead claims that… [Insert Russian propaganda here]

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    All because a white Republican shot another white Republican.

    • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world
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      Never let a crisis go to waste.

      • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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        Look who was invaded after 9/11

        • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
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          Ultimately the US was… by its own cancerous military industrial complex.

        • FlyingCircus@lemmy.world
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          Bin Laden set out to destroy America and he did. The terrorists have won the war on terror.

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            True, but not relevant to 9/11. I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle. It is the United States, which is perpetrating every maltreatment on women, children and common people of other faiths, particularly the followers of Islam. All that is going on in Palestine for the last 11 months is sufficient to call the wrath of God upon the United States and Israel.

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    Yeah, you are an extremist, because you are alive. Makes sense.

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    That’s the label they use for mass shooters when they can’t be racially blamed in case you didn’t know. White school shooters are NVEs. They are trying to legitimize the “trans people are school shooters” absurdity they have created out of thin air by making a syllogism - and being able to treat them as terrorists in the process. Which in US law basically means you have no rights

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    Being told you’re a nihilistically violent extremist that should be locked up sure sounds like an impetus to, i dunno, have no hope for the future and in turn be more receptive to extremist actions, even violent ones, no?

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      That’s the point.

      If you can push a minority group into desperation, then you get to play the moral high ground when they act out of desperation. It’s not a new trick by any means.

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        It’s been Israel’s playbook against Palestine for a very, very long time.

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        Nah, even if the minority group doesn’t do anything, “yes they are. They’re being evil and doing evil things just over there where you’re not looking, and that’s why bad things are happening to you. The only way to stop them is to give me power.”

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    That’s funny. I’ve been defining the FBI and the current administration as embodying “Nihilistic Violent Extremism” as “criminal conduct… in furtherance of political, social, or religious goals that derive primarily from a hatred of society at large and a desire to bring about its collapse by sowing indiscriminate chaos.”

    Weird, right?

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      I’m a terrorist? Because of what I did to my body?

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        You monster! That body is the property of Christian fascism now.

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          Unless it gets pregnant. Then it can get fucked for all they care.

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          They’re gonna kill it and then say that it was a suicide.

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        Clearly! Hopefully you’ll be driven away!

        To Canada, Portugal, or maybe Malta. Which apparently all have very strong protections for transgender folks. Malta apparently combines that with no murders of trans persons from 2008-2022.

        (Stay safe please)

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          Interesting. Malta being a very Catholic country, I would not have guessed it being ahead. It is tiny, though, and there isn’t much employment. But a really lovely little rock. English speaking and with fantastic history. Yes, I may have considered moving there once.

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            Gender identity is constitutionally protected there! I wouldn’t have guessed it either, I found out about it when I was researching options on places to move.

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          Canada might be going downhill from what I hear 😬

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            Unfortunately, a lot of places are…

            Safety and survival are the top priorities, so the furthest from “actually trying to kill you” is ideal IMO. But getting to another country is easier said than done, so its get going to where you can be as safe as you can. If that’s Portugal, do it. If its a blue city in a blue state, do that. If its surviving on a homestead and avoiding all contact possible… Thats still an option.

            One of my friends is planning to go to Toronto for an “extended work trip” her boss is arranging.

            I really fucking hate this stupid timeline.

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              Is there any hope that this designation makes it easier for trans Americans to apply for asylum in other countries? I’d love to see Canada step up and welcome trans refugees. We do have our problems though: politics is lurching to the right and the fascist sharks are circling. I worry for my trans friends here too. But we’re mostly not at MAGA levels of insanity, and I hope what we see in the USA shocks Canada out of our drift towards it.

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                I hope they do make it easier for trans Americans to get in!

                With any luck, what’s happening here right now will be a big enough warning for your fellow Canadians…

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                  I hope Canadian rights campaign groups start to push for the government to recognize that trans people are not safe in the USA and deserve the chance of asylum here.

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    Dear trans comrades from the US, arm yourselves and organize if you have the means to. I’d say get out of there but that’s probably much more difficult. 😔

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      My dearest friends, I second this.

      Exercise your second amendment rights. Be prepared.

      And in every way possible; please protect yourselves.

      <3

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    Every accusation is an admission.

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    and then they’ll parallel push for removal of passports for these groups. then they’ll push to make passports required for voting….

    fucking nazis. all of them.

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      They want you to be able to show a birth certificate with a matching name as your id which actually rules out many trans people and the majority of married women.

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      Ah yes, nazis, famous for checks notes taking passports from groups they don’t like. That’s what they did to them, yeah.

      They don’t need to push for anything. Being labelled an NVE means you are subject to the PATRIOT Act as a domestic terrorist. It’s not going to be bad when or if it will be time to vote. It’s already really fucking incredibly bad. It brings me no pleasure posting these comments, really, but it is reality.

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      And if you don’t have a passport they’ll arrest you and send you to a camp for undocumented people. If you try to escape they’ll arrest you and send you to a camp. The only way through is active, organized resistance and defense in large numbers.

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    Everything goes according to putin’s plan. Electing incompetent nazi cunts will weaken us.

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