We’re just quitting without writing? Living very dangerously aren’t we?
It is an emergency exit not a normal exit.
The real emergency exit will leave swap files
When I accidentally edit a very important file very incorrectly and don’t know what it looked like before
Works as long as you didn’t put something silly in your nvim config like
vim.keymap.set("ca", "q!", "echo 'not so fast!'")vim something.log
esc
quit
exit
ctrl+x
ctrl+q
shushejehojwhatiwibaln):gufht;vfgs+_&f
reboot
nano something.logshushejehojwhatiwibaln
fond memories of this distro
Why would a text editor use a key like q to quit, obviously quit is <shift> + ZZ
git güd
I believe that’s Vim for “Beam us out, Mr. Scott”
Thank you very much. I sent this to my coworker who expressed interest in switching to vim :)
On german QWERTZ keyboards, you need to use shift to make : and !.
On US ones as well, I think they just put the relevant key-symbols and excluded the combination press as they can be assumed.
I have a custom keyboard with a QMK firmware. I enabled something called auto shift. It’s the best. Just hold down the key you want shifted, and it auto shifts. I settled for enabling this for capital letters and symbols. So comfortable not to have to press the shift key.
So you hold down the first letter of each sentence longer so that it capitalizes rather than hold shift? That feels like it would completely mess with my flow when typing. Shift just happens naturally for me and I don’t register I’m pushing it.
Yea, this would be super slow
Exactly like that, yes. Or 1 for exclamation point, or 2 for @. Just like on a phone keyboard, with tap and hold for symbols and numbers and such.
I’ve had this keyboard for a few months now and I didn’t enable it exactly for the reasons you mention.
I enabled it a few weeks ago now just to try it, and wow, I though I didn’t notice myself pressing the shift key, that it “came naturally”. Boy was I wrong. Now whenever I have to use the shift key it feels so cumbersome lol. Typing has become so comfortable now.
I use a ZSA Voyager for reference.
What if you wanna repeat a character?
I spam the key. But that is such an extremely rare case that it’s worth the trade-off. The firmware also does allow you to add a key to toggle auto shifting on and off, so I could just add that if I want, but I don’t see the need.
If I need to repeat a character many times in a text editor, I’d just use the features of the editor to do so. Helix or Neovim has you covered for repeating characters thousands of times and copying it to the clipboard with a handful of keystrokes if you wish. But what an edge case though.
For double letters, I just double tap like you would normally when typing. 👍
How does it work in games, like holding W?
Does this break games? Where in the input pipeline is the long press converted to shift? Being in the firmware implies that it’s in the keyboard itself, so even games wouldn’t be able to see that you’re just holding W to go forwards.
Common French W. AZERTY proves itself superior once again.
Here in Tarzania we hold the superior and elusive ! key
Same on Dvorak.
Though the custom coder’s Dvorak I use while programming has a dedicated ! key. Shift still needed for : though.
[Esc] [Z] [Z]
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Or just ZZ for me since I’m rarely in insert mode (I just press esc quickly after making an edit out of habit).
5 key presses to save and exit. Frickin vim.
I’m pretty sure that’s close without saving changes. :wq would be needed to save.
To be precise, : means bring up commands, w means save, q means exit, and ! means force
To be more precise, q means quit the current window. If you’ve split the window, e.g. with :split or :vsplit, use :qa to quit all windows.
I think it’s w = write and q = quit so the letters make more sense
Also :x is the same as :wq
No, it isn’t, x writes only when changes have been made, while w writes unconditionally.
Why would you want to write again if no changes were made? It’s some obtuse behavior
One obvious use-case is to cause the file to get a new timestamp, which for example tools like make look at.
TIL. Ty!
four. the ! is unnecessary. how many actions are there to save and quit in other editors? ctrl, s, ctrl, w is four. move to file, click, move to save, click, move to ×, click is six.
and that’s before we replace the wq with x.
If we count the modifier keys:
Vim: esc, shift+:, w, q, Enter
Emacs: ctrl-s, crtl+x ctrl+c, or use the menu options
I use both, but find Emacs much quicker, though vim is easier to learn, though Emacs is easier while you’re learning
i’ve never had the time to get into emacs, would love to though.
also, some layouts have the : on its own key, and if you include the esc in vim commands you’re not using vim correctly :)
ESC
Surely you’re editing right before exiting, why else would you be saving?
not necessarily. you could also have done a yank-paste, or a repeated action, or had a command output into the buffer.
it’s a good habit to always leave the editor in normal mode between actions, because that makes for a cleaner edit history with smaller changesets in the undo tree.
…vim is sort of like driving stick in that way.
Yeah, having used both, my preference is for Emacs, which also comes with the bonus of menu driven ways of doing most things when you’ve been away long enough to have forgotten a keyboard shortcut. I have always needed a cheat sheet handy when away from vim for a few months
i’ve moved to helix, partly to stop myself tinkering and partly because the reversed command model is just easier. plus it has popup helpers.
Or 3. Hold shift, press ZZ to save and quit ZQ to quit without saving.
ZZZZ Write current file, if modified, and close the current window (same as “:x”). If there are several windows for the current file, only the current window is closed.
ZQZQ Quit without checking for changes (same as “:q!”).
Since people don’t seem to realize that vim has a help system: You can get to this information with
:help quitor:help exit
Depends how you count. Both
:and!require shift as well.Fuck it I’m pulling the power cord
Exit Sign
Vimer, get out!
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Or just ctrl-z to get out of it and “fg” to get back. :)
Just alt+F4, you didn’t need to edit that file anyways
yet here in trq i need to press shift in %80 of the keys (that’s why i use micro)
the annoying thing about trq is that us is the default everywhere, so you can’t press [İ] to type “i”, it’ll type a " ’ " instead >:(
similar things for “:” and “-”
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