The knight keeps an eye on the lion, builds a domicile, raises a family and makes sure his family is wary, the lion keeps finding easier game mostly injured animals breaking from the herd. The lion dies from old age, then so does the knight. We know how this ends. With the knights descendants eventually having to preserve land for the lions and protect them from humans slaughtering all of the lions for fun. The match ends when humanity accelerates the earth into another ice age and is to worried about its own people to think preserving lions would be a good use of their food supplies. Lions go extinct, humans lose a lot… But get a second chance.
Is a weapon implied?
If so, the knight. People have killed lions with far less. You know humanity has been in Africa all along, right?
If not, it’s more of an even match. The knight has to slowly punch or grapple the lion to death, while the lion probably has to manage to get an unshakeable grasp on a limb. I’m kinda liking the lion, but this being a trained knight I might be totally wrong.
I feel like the armour would slow the lion down more as they’re not used to wearing anything.
Ah the old
RedditLemmy switcharoo.Hold my helm, I’m go… wait, where’s the thing?
The lion lacks a can opener.
But the setting was a fight to death, therefore we have to assume that the lion actually wants to kill, not just eat.
So the lion strikes once, and the knight goes down immediately from the blow. Then it’s over because of the immobility caused by the full armor.
Contrary to popular belief, a set of full plate does not slow you down or limit your mobility at all. If it did it would not have been so widely adopted.
You can absolutely get back up while wearing a suit of armour.
Yes, but only like an old man. Not like fighter who survives.
Lions are pretty strong, right? While the armor could protect from being mauled or clawed, the impact of those hits would add up. That’s why things like the mace and other blunt instruments came to be.
And given the title and lack of comma, the lion in full armor is a given, easily.
Humans have successfully hunted and killed lions, and lions can definitely kill a human.
I think it depends on the arena. Believe it or not, I think the human has better chances in the wild. Human endurance is our superpower, and you could keep scaring the lion with loud armor noises until it collapsed from exhaustion.
In a cage match, I think the lion wins. A knight’s sword in any era is not designed for hunting. If the knight was using a lance or a pike, that would be a better choice, but I think maneuverability is the biggest liability for the knight. Mail armor would deflect scratches, and full plate armor might prevent bites to the covered areas, but once the lion has the knight on the ground, it wouldn’t matter how much protection he has. Proximity benefits the lion, and there’s no question who is faster and stronger.
Still, humans have killed lions without any armor, so it’s any given sunday and all that.
Human endurance is mostly nullified in a full suit of armour. They breath as well as you’d expect.
While I’d prefer a spear, a sword will kill a lion just as well, and the armour mostly fixes the problem of how to get close (they maneuver well enough).
I think one point not to miss is it’s human”s” hunted lions. Probably a single human doesn’t stand much chance.
Even two spear-wielding humans would be a huge challenge to a single lion. He could even hurt/kill one, but receive a fatal wound from the back as a result. We are too clever and well-coordinated.
Definitely. That’s still human”s”.
So here’s the thing, I have never hunted a lion, so I really am just speculating. I know that individual humans have hunted and killed lions, and theoretically a single human could do it. I don’t think that, even with 10 hunters, the humans are guaranteed to come out unscathed. Modern hunters with rifles and jeeps and tranquilized lions still get mauled to death on occasion, so like I said, any given sunday.
Animals are pretty predictable in their attacks. A sword would give any half intelligent armored knight the absolute edge. A competent swordsman will know a few cuts will send the lion reeling. If they’re well placed, it’s deadly.
The knight would have to be very competent. A lion’s swat is very fast and powerful, that medieval sword is going to fly if it’s not handled skillfully.
Not at all. Watch some lion fights. They get very close in a display of dominance. Well within striking range of a sword. They don’t understand a straight line piercing attack to their vulnerable chest and belly. This likely means they won’t defend a quick thrust.
You might be right, they would need cat-like reflexes to evade that kind of stab.
It really depends on what sort of knight we’re talking about. Despite how they are portrayed in movies, swords were more for ceremony than for fighting, and could have been anything from a dagger to a saber to a broadsword. Full plate armor is designed for mounted combat, and most duels were won by whoever knocked the other guy down first.
One good swing could kill a lion, I’m sure, but if you miss, or it doesn’t kill the lion, then the lion will pounce and knock down the knight. Even lightweight armor would be 30-60 lbs, and once you’re down, the lion has won.
Does the lion get prep time?
I vote we give the lion steroids or PCP or something. Whatever helps.
By necessity the hands and feet of plate armor are thinner and more flexible. If a lion was able to get a hand or a foot in its mouth, it’s game over for the knight. They have more than enough bite force to crush the armor and the body part inside.
One big benefit of the plate armor when facing a lion is that the armor was usually shaped to deflect and defend against strikes to the head and neck. Lions usually dispatch their prey by crushing the throat and asphyxiating them. The armor should be a good defense against such attacks.
What I think it comes down to is terrain. If the lion can ambush the knight, the knight will be knocked down before they can bring any weapons to bear effectively. From there, their armor will only make their demise slower and more agonizing. If there is no cover and the knight sees the lion coming, they may be able to keep the lion at bay with weapon swipes. This gives the knight the opportunity for a killing blow or for multiple strikes to make the lion retreat. The knight just has to hope the lion doesn’t charge regardless of potential harm because then it’s just the first scenario again.
If, however you shove your arm down it’s throat to the shoulder, your pauldrons might give you some protection, and the arm and hand can now choke the lion from the inside. It’s gonna try to claw you back out, but hopefully it doesn’t gain a purchase, and then the fight is over in less than 5 minutes.
This is actually what I’ve heard suggested, without the armor, to survive a Jaguar attack in South America
Your arm would be destroyed from the bites, armored or not.
You might survive, but your arm wouldn’t and you’d need medical attention to prevent death from blood loss or crush syndrome.
Yeah, I assume the arm is sacrificial. Hopefully the knight has tourniquets
Kinda hard to see how a lion would win this. Lion probably dies immediately to a sword stroke. If it gets past the sword and tries to bite or swipe at the knight, it might have a chance, but even then the knight still has a chance to draw their dagger. If the dagger doesn’t work (bit hard to stab a lion with a dagger), I can’t imagine that the lion would actually stick around to gnaw the tin can to death.
Doesn’t say “armed knight”. 😉
So assuming a lion vs. a knight who can just turtle and hope for the best? I give the edge to the lion.
If the knight isn’t armed, I’ll assume the lion is declawed and too old to still have teeth.
Indigenous African tribes have been successfully defending themselves from lions for many thousands of years with much less than that.
Trivial with the weapon the knight should be using: a spear or polearm.
It depends on the skill of both the knight and the lion.
Knight is King Arthur, lion trained with Jackie Chan.
So a meaner Tai Lung?
I like the cut of your jib
I choose to believe the lion wins. Fuck knights and people. I won’t read anything to the contrary.
Knight stomps the lion.
And you read this against your will.
And you did it again.
Nope. You can’t prove it.
“Your honor, this man’s defense is impregnable”.
For one, you weren’t allowed to make me read it twice. That’s Double Jeopardy and is against federal law, per Ashley Judd.
Armed or unarmed? Armor might help you not die for a while…but without weapons, there isn’t much a person could do to kill a lion.
Shove an armored arm down it’s throat to the shoulder. It will possibly suffocate and die. This is the advice I have emheard for unarmed and unarmored humans to survive a Jaguar attack in South America. I would wager that chain and plate mail would level the playing field against a lion.
That sounds like someone was pulling your leg. How do you get an arm down a moving animal’s throat, and past it’s limb-severing jaws?
