I might be out of the loop - is this a known fascist, a public figure whose politics we know?
Either way, he is a Master Sargent in the US Marine Corp. He took an oath to defend the Constitution and not a single person or party. His power is bestowed by the people he is sworn to serve. If he is wearing that uniform with honor, that uniform is most definitely anti-fascist.
Pretty sure the joke of this is exactly what you said - defending the Constitution makes you anti-fascist
Its no joke.
That’s the point.
Upholding the oath requires defying the president. Trump doesn’t understand this because he’s an egomaniac. But it’s interesting that military personnel are starting to feel comfortable enough to actually post about this. I still wonder what would happen if the order was given to fire on protesters.
that uniform is most definitely anti-fascist.
Yeah, that’s the point.
And there ain’t too many Master Sergeants. At E-8, most dudes go first sergeant and take on an administrative role. This guy said I want to keep doing infantry shit. All the respect in the world for guys who take the hard path.
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You are using a modern, privileged metric informed by an intensive media penetration that was unavailable during the first three campaigns you mention, and only to a slightly higher degree in the last two.
Most enlisted I have known, and it’s a lot, thought they were defending the world from despots. Hell, even the officers I know initially thought they were serving the public good. The rest I know who don’t fit into that category just wanted to be able to afford college and a family.
And even if the Marine in the picture knows NOW he only served a bloodthirsty tyrannical regime, the fraternity of the USMC, the commitment to the Constitution… It’s some deep, deep connection. Even the most disillusioned Marines I know are still loyal to the Corps and the Constitution. Moreover, it is better that one realizes US hegemony later than never, yes? So how about we welcome those have opened their eyes and remedied their ways?
Or we can just keep shitting on allies and see how that works for us.
It’s one of those rare occasions I wish I could break Lemmy and upvote this comment more than once. Thank you.
One of those rare comments where you want to smash upvote harder.
I’ll lend you mine.
And mine
Thank you. Jesus. The guys I’ve always been friends with served. Weird how that worked out because I didn’t. They mostly say, “Didn’t give a shit, it was a job.” LOL, two of my tightest friends went AWOL and got kicked, not even a dishonorable discharge.
One of my only current friends is my black Marine neighbor. Hate to say, “I’m OK, got a black friend.”, but it’s relevant, particularly given the Marine pictured. He joined, did his best job, now he’s out, not retired, only 30. At least he has some benefits and bought a brand-new house on my block. Also moved in the finest “girl next door” I’ve ever seen. :) (My ex’s daughter. 🙄)
I joke, but seriously, this guy is suffering alcoholism, but at least he’s got some backup from the government. Guess I need to visit more often. I try to drag him out now and again, get shot down, excuses. Need to press the attack.
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Vietnam had tons of media showing exactly what was going on, which is why there were so many people protesting it.
You are being disingenuous, leftists always knew those were sham wars. This was not hidden information back than any more than we knew there were no WMD’s in Iraq.
Likewise just because someone is gullible and stupid enough to buy into their countries propaganda about being the good guys, that does not in any way excuse their war crimes. Many Russians in Ukraine legit believe they’re the good guys fighting Western Nazi’s, they’re not and neither is the US army fighting communists or terrorists or whatever *ist you want to use to label the people of the country you want to dehumanise.
And guess what if he knows NOW and recognises US imperialism, he should take that fucking uniform off and throw it in the fire. You know those vets who threw away their medals and denounced the military after their wars? Those are the few who actually came around and know better NOW.
Americans are not my ally? You’re a revolting nation comparable with Russia or China.
Yeah, why even bother to distinguish between the authoritarians trying to seize permanent control of the most powerful country in the world, and every US soldier who’s ever served?
Fuck off.
While difference between giving and following orders is meaningful, that does not free the latter people from responsibilities.
Obviously that doesn’t condemn every soldier for the horrible shit their country have done (Cambodia?..) but this “respect the uniform” crap is also ridiculous.
Is it also ridiculous that the current overtly fascist administration would call out anti-fascism as a terrorist philosophy? 'Cos dude, it’s happening and there’s nothing ridiculous about it.
Respecting the uniform, in this case, is less about Vietnam or Korea or the Middle-east or any of the more recent wars the US enjoined in… and more about the invasion of Normandy, the battle of the Ardennes or the liberation of Auschwitz.
Auschwitz, Bergen-Belsen, Dachau… Are you not seeing that ugly militant specter is goose-stepping its way back into political vogue again?
Take a breath, step back and look at the NOW.
Respecting the uniform, in this case, is less about Vietnam or Korea or the Middle-east or any of the more recent wars the US enjoined in… and more about the invasion of Normandy, the battle of the Ardennes or the liberation of Auschwitz.
None of which the POS served in.
So instead of him wanking lyrical over how antifa he is (while wearing a literal military uniform), maybe they can reflect on what wars this absolute bellend was personally involved in and have some empathy for the victims of America and not their stormtroopers.
Is it also ridiculous that the current overtly fascist administration would call out anti-fascism as a terrorist philosophy? 'Cos dude, it’s happening and there’s nothing ridiculous about it.
Yes? It’s absolutely ridiculous, are you kidding?
So many comments around here show how uneducated Americans are on 20th century history.
“OMFG it’s so BAD now!”
Uh. You’re about out of time to grab a weapon, buy ammo and practice. The learning curve is steep and it’s about to get shitloads worse.
“Ha! You’ll just die if you fight!”
“And the alternative?”
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The Republican party thanks you for doing your best to sew division among their opponents.
The rest of us wish you’d shove your purity testing into your least pure orifice.
Purity tests are now ‘not tolerating the My Lai massacre’?
It’s like you lot sink lower and lower each time you refuse to ever take a stand against your countries own evils.
With an attitude like that you’d better be strong enough to stand alone.
I’d rather die alone that with baby killers.
Why the fuck are you dbzer0 if you’re gonna simp for the us military?
Korea? You mean that war fought by the United Nations to defend against an aggressive invasion from their much more powerful (and foreign-backed) neighbours? That Korea?
For the French.
Korea had nothing to do with France.
You’re probably thinking of Vietnam. Although even that, to say it was “for the French” would be a massive exaggeration. French Indochina ended before the start of the Vietnam War (known locally as the American War) proper, and France regaining its former colonies was never on the table, no matter the outcome. American foreign policy at the time was staunchly anti-imperial. Or at least anti the form of explicit imperialism Europe had engaged in over the 18th, 19th and early 20th centuries.
The Korean war was about preventing the spread of communism.
Sure. And those communists had an army back by their powerful Communist ally invading…
Anti-fascists have dirty hands coated in soil and grease and labor, not blood.
The soldiers that invaded Normandy might beg to differ from their graves in France.
Ah yes l, let’s lead a life just as hateful as the fascists. That’s sure to fix everything.
Obvious troll.
Didn’t even try hard, just some whataboutism 2/10
They call it collateral damage. Or is it casualties?! A few hundred thousand in Iraq. Plus a few tens of thousand in Afghanistan. And maybe some torture here and there.
And I doubt this person is old enough to have fought literal fascists.
All heroes for participating in the glorious defence of
capitalismdemocracy.Yeah Americans love making up words to justify their actions to themselves.
“Oh no I didn’t drone strike that wedding and kill that 4 year old girl, that was collateral damage from me killing the super bad guy. I’m a hero!”
Your agenda here is painfully obvious and is why you are now PLONKed.
Thank you for being someone of sense. People who spread this shit have no clue of the history of the antifascist movement and what it stands for. The antifascist movement is against everything that the rotten country that is the US stands for; the US military uniform is not, and never will be, a symbol of antifascism.
It definitely was for at least a few years in the 40s
