I’m sad that this is worth mentioning. But if you are dealing with hunger amid threats to SNAP benefits, rice and beans are very cheap per meal and can be bought in bulk. Here’s some tricks I’ve learned:
If you get dried beans, make sure you follow the directions to pre-soak them. Canned beans are easier to prepare, just dump in near the end of cooking to heat them up. Dried lentils don’t need to be pre-soaked, but I prefer to cook them separately and drain the water they boil in.
Brown rice, barley, or other whole grains have much more protein than white rice and I find them more filling. Whole grains take longer to cook than white grains.
Frying diced onions in the pot before adding the grains and water is an easy way to kick the flavor up a notch. Use a generous amount of cooking oil (light olive oil is healthiest) for cost effective calories and help making the meal more filling.
Big carrots or celery in bulk are pretty cheap too. I like to dice carrots by partially cutting length wise into quarters, but leave the small end intact to keep the carrot together to make it easier to dice down the side. Add them to the same pot as the grains after the grains start to soften. Beets are also great; skin and cube then boil separately until soft. Change up your veggie to get a mix of vitamins
Get some bulk garlic powder, hot sauce, paprika, cumin, crushed red pepper, black pepper, etc. Season and salt the pot to taste.
You’ll only need 1-2 pots and a cutting knife/board for veggies.
I recommend Harvard’s Nutrition Source for science-based nutrition information and they have some recipes too
Edit: discussing big changes in diet with a primary care doctor or registered dietician is generally a good idea.
Probiotic supplements may help with gas.
As a bonus this sort of meal has a very small environmental footprint.
I just want to add:
If you are in NYC - check out the Chinese and Mexican grocery stores!!! Usually a ton of foot traffic keeps the vegetables fresh. I do most of my vegetable shopping at one particular Chinese store which I find to be the best - [except for the onions (why are the onions so bad - do chinese people not eat yellow onions?)] - and it’s fun to try new vegetables!
Also, strange, and I’m not sure what to make of it - fish in the Chinese grocery stores costs 1/2 of what it at white-people ones.
Imagine living in a country with 900+ billionaires, with growing tendency, where regular people are discussing about the best ways not to starve.
Not that it’s much better where I live, but damn, what the hell is wrong with this world?
part of it is that the working class, poor to people who incorrectly think they’re middle class included, basically everyone who is not ownership class (where owning things is the primary means of making them money), utterly fail to organize, and sometimes actively work against their own interests (like the “lets make a third party!” morons, the “I am morally superior for not voting” morons, and or course the actively malicious “I let the billionaires tell me that them fucking me was actually brown people’s fault” morons.
The elite have always been vampires living on the blood of us peons… it feels new to us because we are living it now, but history shows its been this way a long time, and it was probably the same in prerecorded history too… we, as humans tend to suck…
This will cost an extra few dollars but still totally worth it…add curry sauce! Aldi has butter chicken, korma, and tikka masala sauce for abt 5 bucks a jar and it is really good with rice and beans.
Wish I could but I can’t stand neither beans nor rice. Gotta have meat and green veggies in my meal.
That means that I only like chili without beans. At Asian restaurants I always ask for no rice and substitute noodles. The only beans I can tolerate are refried. So at Mexican restaurants I ask for no rice and double beans.
While we’re at it, I don’t like potatoes, either. I’ll eat them, but I won’t go out my way to order them, unless the alternative side dish selection is no better.
Edit: FWIW I’ll eat it all if I’m hungry, but none of these things would be my first choice.
My parents would say you just haven’t been hungry enough. Their parents lived through the great depression. I wouldn’t know, but I hear people are having to make food/medicine trade offs, which seems more dire that flavor/texture preference tradeoffs.
That said, I don’t know a protein source that’s as available and cheap as beans, but you might try insects if cheap is the priority or poultry if availability is your priority.
You can buy a large bag of frozen vegetable blend and steam it fairly simply. You can either steam single serving and keep the rest frozen OR steam the whole bag in bulk, and refrigerate for up to a week, reheating single servings as you need them.
Best of luck.
Is it a textural thing? I wish very much that I liked mushrooms, as they seem like such a good alternative to meat, but I cant stand the texture of them. Makes me gag.
Mostly I just don’t like the taste, but I guess I don’t like the texture of beans and many potato preparations either, now that I think about it.
Core memory triggered.
Yes, vegan food is wayy cheaper (and healthier too). It’s one hell of a life hack
Let me guess.
leave it to lemmy users to disparage the primary staple of 3.5 billion people. “Pre-diabetic junk food” lmao sure ok
It truly is the way too many enthusiasts on any topic think.
Like they can’t fathom the idea that other people are focused on other things despite this being 100% the reason humans were able to create what we have.
If humans all focused on the exact same things, we’d have a very narrow scope and much less innovation.
It’s why its so hard to find good advice.
You go to a cooking subreddit, and they’d have you thinking that unless you knew every artisinal craftsman shop in your area (your local butcher, your local baker etc etc), you must not know food, and that you need 400 dollar pans to get utility out of your cookware when literally just a common stainless steel set would do you just fine, and even if you had to replace it 20 times, it still wouldnt be the cost of the more expensive one.
People live in their own bubbles and expect that everyone else not only could but should meet them where they are in their bubble, rather than realizing that guess what, food is just to eat for most people, not some passion they want to dedicate multiple hours a day to.
We also do the sauté onions (which is just onions cooked slooooowly). They caramelise and become sweet, add some generic chicken seasoning to them (I use a salt/paprika mix from the general store), tinned baked beans in tomato sauce, rice, and that’s all. Spice it up with some jar jalapeños and its a damn fine meal for nearly no prep or cost.
Also especially if you have a big family or friends go to the restaurant supply store. Last summer they had 50lbs bags of potatoes for $10. Lots of produce like that for cheap in bulk.
Also you can buy the exact same stuff your favorite restaurants heat up in the oven from there, far cheaper and with a different label.
Fortified short grain white rice… hit up Costco or Sam’s, or your local Asian market, and you can score a 20 lb bag for like $15 which comes out to literally a few cents per meal. (well… pre-tariffs at least… nowadays idk)
From there, add beans, or eggs, or chicken broth, or literally almost anything else: shit off the clearance wrack, from the food pantry, w/e. If it’s a meat or veggie, it’ll go with rice. In the case of the pantry, if you’re not actually sure what it is, it’ll still probably go with rice. Got a bag of spicy cheetos you forgot to close and now it’s all stale? Don’t throw that shit away, smash it up and throw it in with your next batch of rice - now it’s spicy! (I’ve done it - texture’s a little weird, but otherwise came out better than expected). Rice is ridiculously versatile.
Disregard the hate for white rice being nutritionless junkfood - it is, but when money’s that tight, you don’t give a fuck. The fortified rice mitigates that a bit, and in my experience is usually cheaper. It’s a starting point: add what you can to make it less shit; and even if it’s a meal of just straight rice, that’s still better than an empty stomach.
Cooked plain rice freezes well too. I cook a big batch and use a small bowl to split it into individual portions. I wrap those in a little plastic wrap, and freeze it. ~2 mins in the microwave (reusing the wrap as a cover for the bowl) and I’ve got almost-as-good-as-fresh rice.
Careful with reheating rice. If you immediately freeze it or throw it in the fridge right after cooking you’ll (probably) be fine but cooked rice that has been sitting at room temperature for a couple hours can become a breeding ground for bacteria.
https://rightasrain.uwmedicine.org/body/food/leftover-rice-bacillus-cereus-food-poisoning
Any suggestions for relatively inexpensive breakfasts, or do people also eat beans/rice? Right now I’ve been eating overnight oats, but they aren’t filling at all and taste terrible (and a lot of recipes have ingredients that oxidize weirdly overnight that I’ve tried eliminating). Tofu scramble takes a long time to prep, there’s not enough freezer space between my roommates and I for meal prep, and my apartment has tons of shitty restrictions they’ve gone after me for, so can’t use a second freezer or instant pot. I’ve been eating beans/vegetables + rice + salsa for dinner though and that works well and is always filling (maybe I should switch to brown rice from what I’m reading in this thread).
For your oats, do you not add a bit of salt, some sugar and or some condensed sweetened milk?
But also, toast and some spread of any kind is pretty efficient. Like peanut butter with the amounts you can get can be pretty cheap.
We put 45 minutes on the electric pressure cooker and get the smoothest beans.
That’s how I start my refried beans. After pressure cooker add oil (lots…), salt, and a little vinegar. Sauteed onions, cumin, chili powder also good.
I think it’s way better than any vegetarian refried beans that you get in a can. Probably because they have more salt and oil…
Some notes about gas: It’s primarily caused by a combination of fiber, and in the case of beans, by the oligosaccharides. The fiber can be handled by gradually increasing intake of high fiber foods. The more you get used to eating them, the less bloated you should feel, and it generally goes down to a normal level of gas that most people experience.
For the oligosaccharides, soaking and rinsing the dry beans does help remove a lot of it. Rinsing canned beans also helps. Taking Beano (or an equivalent) can help too. There are also claims of various spices being able to help as well.
It’s also important to note that different types of legumes can cause more bloating, or less. Experiment with different kinds to find what works for you.
If you’re willing/able to make the effort, sprouting and even fermenting will significantly help with bloating as well.
As a last resort or easy reprieve, opting for low fiber plant foods like white rice and tofu won’t hurt in the short term, though whole foods should generally be preferred because natural sources of fiber of hugely beneficial.
On an unrelated note, I have always hated soaking beans, which is why the Instant Pot has been one of the single greatest cooking inventions I have ever used. Supposedly the pressure cooking also breaks down the oligosaccharides and reduces bloating. I just love it because I can toss in a bunch of beans and oat groats, and have enough of that stuff cooked to easily and quickly prepare meals every day for a week with each batch.
I have always hated soaking beans, which is why the Instant Pot has been one of the single greatest cooking inventions I have ever used.
Exactly why I bought mine. Any pressure cooker will do. Beans (red, pinto, or black) 1 : 2 with water for 40 minutes, followed by natural release. I use roughly a pint of dried beans (1lb bag, then topped up out of a mixed-beans bag), to get 9 large servings.
I also do quinoa in the same cooker 1 : 5/4 with water (or sub up to half the water with stock) for 0 minutes (just bring up to high pressure), followed by natural release. I use 3 cups dry to make 9 servings.
Depending on your spice budget, you might feel like you are getting more by applying right before eating. But, if you want the spice flavors to permeate the beans, it’s best to add them to the pot and warm them just a bit with the saute setting before adding the beans (or quinoa/rice/grains) and water.
If you eat meat, miscut ham is also a good addition to the beans before cooking – they will share lipids and flavors.
I use nooch as a topping for mine, to try to keep it vegan, but what I really like is a Mexican shredded cheese blend.
Brown rice, barley, or other whole grains have much more protein than white rice
White rice is pretty much pre-diabetic junk food that’s been stripped of most of its fibre and nutrients. I’d recommend always replacing with something like the above, or my favorite, steel-cut oats.
If you get dried beans, make sure you follow the directions to pre-soak them.
When cooking from dried, some baking soda in the heating process can greatly speed things up. The use of a potato masher here and there can also speed up the softening of the beans, and makes it easier to tell how far along they are.
Get some bulk garlic powder, paprika, cumin, crushed red pepper, black pepper, etc. Season and salt the pot to taste.
Don’t forget MSG, which boosts up the savory / umami taste. It’s cheap, you don’t need a lot, and there is no such thing as an MSG allergy. (altho very occasionally people can have sensitivity)
fuck the rice, nice mixed bean salad with olive oil, some salt and pepper, that shit will fill you and make you fart like crazy.
That’s fine in the short term. Whole grains have essential amino acids that beans lack
well i don’t only eat that so of course im not eating beans 24/7
so add rice and then you arrive back to the post :)
