Its hard to decry the evils of capitalism when there’s never been any other successful systems. Id like to hear your thoughts.
This’ll be a doozy.
when there’s never been any other successful systems.
I don’t know what you define as successful, but I can assure you there were previous systems and alternatives that currently exist. It’s a broad term
ikr “there’s never been any other successful systems” is a tip-off that either they’re trolling, or they’re so invested in their own beliefs that they’ll never see anything else.
It’s kinda like saying “of course I should worship [the christian] god, since he’s the only god who’s ever existed!”
No one has yet to name any specifically.
Not trolling. I typed this up a little too fast and probably misworded it.
That’s because there is no country that’s been governed by a single ideology for very long. Even in the last hundred years in America, each of the many parts of government have aligned with different policies as politicians fought for the reigns. It’s not a simple dichotomy.
You asked a question you don’t understand.
We live in capitalism. Its power seems inescapable. So did the divine right of kings. Any human power can be resisted and changed by human beings. Resistance and change often begin in art, and very often in our art, the art of words.Ursula K. Le Guin
Capitalism has only existed for a few centuries. Humans have had economies for thousands of years. Wage labor isn’t a universal constant.
Start here https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/david-graeber-fragments-of-an-anarchist-anthropology
Why are random words highlighted?
This kind of quote is interpreted as a code block on some clients, therefore keywords like “in”, “for” or “and” end up highlighted.
Why should we? We aren’t your sounding board
No one convinced anyone that capitalism was a good Idea when it came out, they just did it.
And there’s no “better” alternative because, most of the time, capitalist kill it before it could flourish.
Regulated Capitalism. Specifically, capitalism without corporate personhood, with strong antitrust laws, with strong consumer protections, and with regulatory bodies that have real teeth.
Me: I have a blockage in my artery! Doctor, please remove it!
Doctor: ok but what are you going to replace it with lol
In your example, the artery is the system the blockage is the problem with the system.
So, “My Capitalism has Billionaires! Remove them.”
We can address the problem or replace the system.
or just get rid of it. modern humans have been on this earth for hundreds of thousands of years. they haven’t had full-featured economic systems the entire time.
I’d rather not go back to 90% of the population subsistence farming, thanks.
The trend seems to be that capitalism works great for new and emerging markets. It incentivises optimization, and businesses will naturally try to min/max profit. Once the product/service/resource is ubiquitous enough to be nearly mandatory, the min/max of capitalism tends to push for conglomeration. Once that happens, number must go up, so they cut corners and dilute their own service or product to enshittify it to extract more profit.
I say once a service/product/resource is a staple of the society and effectively mandatory for a person to have, a free, socialized, option must then exist. It must meet the minimum demand for a person, while still having better/higher tiers available- but the encroaching free option is then the main driver of competition.
Right now, a lot of capitalism markets don’t have any real competition, so they have no real incentive to genuinely improve.
Social Democracy slowly transitioning into Democratic Socialism.
Eventually automation will be able to provide UBI, and people need to work less hours.
Norway is a great country btw. 🇳🇴
Al hail Norway!
I always hear is great to live there. And Denmark.
What a strange thing to say when every fiat currency in history prior to our current crop of them has eventually gone to 0. We live in fragile, temporary bubbles of wealth concentration largely funded on violence and grift and inflated vastly beyond reality by credit and debt, ones that turn out to be largely illusion when the boss decides to close shop and skip town, not “the only successful system”. I agree it is the dominant system and it has essentially destroyed any of the other possible ones at this point.
Every system is susceptible to the same corruption we’re dealing with now.
A working system starts with transparency. Any system that allows back-room deals, preferential treatment to a subgroup, etc. will eventually lead to a Trump-like demagogue looking to be the king of it all.
Yeah there will always be shitty humans. There should be a system so the majority of good humans can get rid of those shitty ones that are destroying everything.
Ah, and we creep towards eugenics. No deal.
The thing is, all humans act shitty sometimes. Most people aren’t good, they’re just constrained to resist their urges towards bad behavior. You can’t get rid of the “bad people” and keep the “good people” because A) neither group really exists and 2] as soon as you create a mechanism for removing undesirables from society it will be subverted by the very worst people and used to purge their enemies (or perceived enemies).
