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If the state can’t protect its people from the damage that technology and capitalism can do, they have no right to prevent people from protecting themselves.
Fix climate change. Tax billionaires. Address the housing crisis. Then we can talk about taking away privacy in the name of upholding the law.
Doesn’t even have to be a lofty goal like fixing climate change. I’d settle for the backdoors not leading to disclosure and scams, as any such weakening of security or privacy inadvertently does.
When there was the leak of ID photos from that one site (forget which one) I sighed, because neither the users nor the site wanted to keep ID photos around, but the government made them do that. It was the most predictable result I could have imagined.
The billionaires really want all in on no privacy.
For everyone else*
At this point I’m sure it’s not even about control anymore, it’s just that privacy sometimes gets in the way of “line go up”.
Made a sizable donation. I encourage you all to help them manage this situation, defend themselves and keep up their good work.
This isn’t the US… French billionaire have next to no stakes in tech industry. (See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_French_billionaires_by_net_worth, the only tech company on there is datadog and that’s a US one)
I doubt L’Oréal or Chanel much for your online data.
French billionaires are actively promoting fascism, headed by Bolloré who owns a TV station similar to foxnews and has a neo Nazi body guard on his private island.
French police is killing more people every year, with little to no consequence. French protests have changed from family walks to full riots as police attacks peaceful protests (a recent leak shows amongst other things a riot-cop telling his officer during what can only be described as a battle that protesters have children amongst them, officer replies that it’s what you choose when protesting).
It’s not about tech, it’s about control of the masses so they don’t rebel.
Just for convenience (since it’s hard to read the screneshot on a phone), here’s the text:
GrapheneOS is being heavily targeted by the French state because we provide highly secure devices and won’t include backdoors for law enforcement access. Theyre conflating us with companies selling closed source products using portions of our code. Both French state media and corporate media are publishing many stories attacking the GrapheneOS project based on false and unsubstantiated claims from French law enforcement. They’ve made a clear threat to seize our servers and arrest our developers if we do not cooperate by adding backdoors. Due to this, we’re leaving France and leaving French service providers including OVH. We need substantial help from the community to push back against this across platforms. People malicious towards us are also using it as an opportunity to spread libel/harassment conteM targeting our team, raid our chat rooms and much more. /e/ and iodéOS are both based in France, and are both actively attacking GrapheneOS. /e/ receives substantial government funding. Both are extremely non-private and secure which is why France is targeting us while those get government funding. We need a lot more help than usual and we’re sending our the first ever notification to everyone on the sewer because this is a particularly bad situation. If people help us, it will enable us to focus more on development again including releasing experimental Pixel l0 releases very soon.
Next time I go to the comments first…
Got a link?
Just added to the post
what exactly is /e/ doing against graphene ?
Graphene (more specifically its founder) is always in a vicious cycle of claiming that everyone asking for proof of Graphene being “under attack” is in itself making an “attack”. You can consider yourself Graphene’s enemy for life for your transgression.
Watching these youtube links makes you an attacker also, so be careful: https://youtu.be/Dx7CZ-2Bajg https://youtu.be/4To-F6W1NT0
Given this, do we actually know that the French government is targeting GrapheneOS in a significant way, or is this just another dramatisation?
I did skim through some similar discussion on the HN link, which you can read here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45999024
I honestly don’t know or care enough to figure out how much exaggeration is taking place, but it seems like there’s at least a possibility that this is a nothingburger from a powerless journalist that’s being extrapolated like crazy. There might be a definite answer in that thread but I don’t have the time to evaluate all angles of this incident right now.
Ok, first I was very worried when I saw the original message, but after watching these videos… well, The Boy Who Cried Wolf came to mind.
Not to protect /e/os and Iode (neither to promote the french laws), but I would like to have real source of what’s happening, what /e/os and idoe didn’t do right, when they conveyed fakes about graphene…
Not to say but the graphene community (mainly his leader) is always having drama with some people. So real proofs and explanations would be greatly appreciated. Wouldn’t like to say black or white to this subject and would like to nuance the post
yeah as a graphene user I have been worried for a while now about the mental state of the project head. It also doesn’t seem like he cares much for the opinions of the users
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Good catch I was in a rush
No worries!
Me and the boys on our way to help Graphene in France.Please just copy and paste the text. It’s not private information.
It’s in the alt text
Alt text is like putting Braille next to a sign; it’s a tool for the blind (who use screen readers to access alt text).
It’s also a backup when the image fails to load, but it’s not a substitute for making sure the image is legible for people who can see.
If you add a transcription in the body of the post, that should cover your remaining bases.
Ah, I use Voyager and it lets you easily read the alt text after clicking on the image, I figured there was similar functionality on other clients. Noted
Is there any information on this from a more reliable source than a screenshot of a discord message from a generic account? Especially from a project whose leader is known for persecutory claims.
So in the drama between the Graphene team vs every other privacy-focused Android dev - who should I trust?
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From France: news outlets began parroting government stating GrapheneOS is used by narcos.
GrapheneOS reacted strongly.
However, France is on a very shitty auth-right trend (including arresting Telegram founder) so the reaction is very understandable.
France and the rest of Europe… sigh Fuck Fascists. That includes our German government, full of selfish fuckheads who further fortify the surveillance state.
It’s just capitalism reaching it’s end stages. Fascism arises either when capitalism is threatened or when it has eaten itself and its contradictions become too great for liberal “democracy” to ignore.
With climate change, refugees from wars and disasters, micro plastics and other pollutants, the waning of social programs, job market collapse across the world, collapsing birth rates, inflation, energy, and a hundred other things, capitalism is reaching its end stage.
There really are only a few options from here. And honestly I only see two major ones: either the rich win and we have literal slavery world wide (not wage slavery, actual no pay, no benefits, no nothing slavery) held up by hyper surveillance and armed bots/drones, or we break capitalism and move onto something better.
Lol graphene bros are crazy and paranoid, as always. Don’t trust them.
