I mean, it kinda is, because he isn’t a mutant in the sense that it is some quirk of nature. He is engineered, designed to be superhuman in many ways. He just lucked out and didnt get the space nietzsche genes. People still should not try to make Übermenschen, not in trek and not IRL either.
Sojef: Our technological abilities are not apparent because we have chosen not to employ them in our daily lives. We believe that when you create a machine to do the work of a man, you take something away from the man.
… Like it’d be taking something away from our species evolutionary path. And more.
The same reason they have in the show, once you start with it everyone will eventually have to, or be treated to good old classism which was already gone in trek. Cant compete with 200iq people who can run 50kph and kick through a concrete pillar, if you excuse the hyperboly.
This is one area where I don’t really agree with the reasoning behind the Star Trek lore. The Prime Directive is another one.
With genetic engineering, they had one really bad experience, so they toss the baby out with the bath water. Realistically, they needed to make this rule, as well as the Prime Directive, because they thought it made for better storytelling. But the in-universe excuses don’t seem very valid to me.
This might be why I like this show so much. These characters are problematic kings. This meme was almost about Quark for being the first sentient being who could befriend the asshole fascist goo man.
Quark for being the first sentient being who could befriend the asshole fascist goo man.
Heh. I like how you phrased that.
Though, there’s a social-commentary subtext to them that I’ve long picked up, that lends more colour to that friendship, in that it’s a (albeit tense and fraught) relationship between (… to put at least some wording to the idea…) capital and state monopoly of force.
Awwww, lovely. Look at that beautiful friendship instigated. What could go wrong…
(… though they never did press heavily on that. … Mainly, I suspect, because they cornered themselves from being able to, because Odo’s been made too much of a stickler, not corruptible enough.)
Right?? Their friendship is all about subtext, they’d never admit that they’re friends or have developed a bond or schedule revolving around the other.
Though since writing that previous comment I’ve seen more episodes to learn Odo has had other more traditional friends for far longer
I met the 2nd Dax actor at a convention in 1999. She was big mad during the autograph signing, because her agent told her she’d get money for each autograph, on top of the money they paid her to be part of a special signing event.
How would you feel if I forced you to tediously sit in one spot for six hours and repeatedly sign your name on hundreds of useless and worthless photos of yourself, and also be forced to politely interact with thousands of strangers all day, without getting paid?
Probably could say several descriptors apply to several characters. But I think the logic’s tight enough it passes as a baby mensa-puzzle for trekies, and they can get it right.
a murderous “conservative”
… it was hard to come up with one for Worf that fit well and wasn’t too similar or ambiguous. Was the one I was least happy with. … Glad he’s covered by all of them. ;D
I’m torn between cause of shitting and pissing and crying because my fave char from DS9 is going to be one of
dax] [Edit:] a worm [/]… Oh, and there’s Jake[0], Rom, Leeta, Keiko, Molly, Opaka, Shakaar, Tora Ziyal, Cassidy[1], The Nagus, Martok, … and Morn.
Heh. When I started this post, I was just thinking of those first three, then remembered I kinda like Kira better than Odo, Garak, or Quark.
[0: Wouldnt be a fave. Except when considering S4E2, The Visitor, with old Jake.]
[1: Wouldn’t be a fave.]
There’s nothing wrong in being a genetic mutant. Also, she is a reformed terrorist.
I mean, it kinda is, because he isn’t a mutant in the sense that it is some quirk of nature. He is engineered, designed to be superhuman in many ways. He just lucked out and didnt get the space nietzsche genes. People still should not try to make Übermenschen, not in trek and not IRL either.
You’re right, in a post-scarcity society we should let people’s genetic advantage be entirely random.
Your parents or grandparents had shit luck? Congrats you get to needlessly be worse than other people!
There is a difference between fixing genetic defects and disabilities and making people smarter better faster stronger than everyone else.
So make everybody smarter better faster stronger.
It’s post-scarcity, what reason is there not to improve the lives of everyone.
I guess it’s similar(ish) to
Sojef: Our technological abilities are not apparent because we have chosen not to employ them in our daily lives. We believe that when you create a machine to do the work of a man, you take something away from the man.
… Like it’d be taking something away from our species evolutionary path. And more.
The same reason they have in the show, once you start with it everyone will eventually have to, or be treated to good old classism which was already gone in trek. Cant compete with 200iq people who can run 50kph and kick through a concrete pillar, if you excuse the hyperboly.
This is one area where I don’t really agree with the reasoning behind the Star Trek lore. The Prime Directive is another one.
With genetic engineering, they had one really bad experience, so they toss the baby out with the bath water. Realistically, they needed to make this rule, as well as the Prime Directive, because they thought it made for better storytelling. But the in-universe excuses don’t seem very valid to me.
Dangerous.
No biomimetic gel for you.
This might be why I like this show so much. These characters are problematic kings. This meme was almost about Quark for being the first sentient being who could befriend the asshole fascist goo man.
Heh. I like how you phrased that.
Though, there’s a social-commentary subtext to them that I’ve long picked up, that lends more colour to that friendship, in that it’s a (albeit tense and fraught) relationship between (… to put at least some wording to the idea…) capital and state monopoly of force.
Awwww, lovely. Look at that beautiful friendship instigated. What could go wrong…
(… though they never did press heavily on that. … Mainly, I suspect, because they cornered themselves from being able to, because Odo’s been made too much of a stickler, not corruptible enough.)
Right?? Their friendship is all about subtext, they’d never admit that they’re friends or have developed a bond or schedule revolving around the other.
Though since writing that previous comment I’ve seen more episodes to learn Odo has had other more traditional friends for far longer
I met the 2nd Dax actor at a convention in 1999. She was big mad during the autograph signing, because her agent told her she’d get money for each autograph, on top of the money they paid her to be part of a special signing event.
How would you feel if I forced you to tediously sit in one spot for six hours and repeatedly sign your name on hundreds of useless and worthless photos of yourself, and also be forced to politely interact with thousands of strangers all day, without getting paid?
You just described Worf like, a dozen times.
Probably could say several descriptors apply to several characters. But I think the logic’s tight enough it passes as a baby mensa-puzzle for trekies, and they can get it right.
… it was hard to come up with one for Worf that fit well and wasn’t too similar or ambiguous. Was the one I was least happy with. … Glad he’s covered by all of them. ;D
Can you really be called a cult leader when you’re literally a demigod?
Yeah, I struggled and perhaps over-reached a little with that one.
You can be a demigod and not lead a cult. In many ways, that’s what he did.
He didn’t want to though.
You misspelled “freedom fighter”
Not I. I were merely quoting the writers/actors.
Kira was awesome.