These aren’t really that effective compared to a hollow point. They create a big visual in ballistic gel, but in a more realistic medium they act more like an improved FMJ, but still over penetrate badly (which isn’t a good thing in most cases).
They tend to be recommend as a bear round, where over-penetration is actually valuable and desired.
The same manufacturer actually makes a deeper cut version that doesn’t over penetrate called the xtreme defender, which is generally still worse than a good hollow point in standard calibers, but can be a good option for weaker calibers like .380, where hollow point under-penetrate.
however, for 9mm and above, you’re better off with a standard hollow point, which is more effective and far more affordable than the all-copper xtreme rounds.
xtreme defender… can be a good option for weaker calibers like .380,
That’s my use case. I load the 68gr defender over 4.1 grains of Win 231. These chrono 1,181fps out of the LCP’s 2.75" barrel. Feeds flawlessly, which surprised me a bit.
A couple months ago American Reloading had 68gr Defender pulls for 27.6 cents each which is about half price and in the ballpark of top-tier hollowpoints.
Nope, these are way worse. They’re supposed to overpenetrate. But they look like they’re supposed to expand and fragment, right?
Check it out: https://lehighdefense.com/reloading-bullets/xtreme-penetrator.html
They do really cool stuff inside ballistics gel because of the surface pressure on that flattened tip
These aren’t really that effective compared to a hollow point. They create a big visual in ballistic gel, but in a more realistic medium they act more like an improved FMJ, but still over penetrate badly (which isn’t a good thing in most cases).
They tend to be recommend as a bear round, where over-penetration is actually valuable and desired.
The same manufacturer actually makes a deeper cut version that doesn’t over penetrate called the xtreme defender, which is generally still worse than a good hollow point in standard calibers, but can be a good option for weaker calibers like .380, where hollow point under-penetrate.
however, for 9mm and above, you’re better off with a standard hollow point, which is more effective and far more affordable than the all-copper xtreme rounds.
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That’s my use case. I load the 68gr defender over 4.1 grains of Win 231. These chrono 1,181fps out of the LCP’s 2.75" barrel. Feeds flawlessly, which surprised me a bit.
A couple months ago American Reloading had 68gr Defender pulls for 27.6 cents each which is about half price and in the ballpark of top-tier hollowpoints.