• PugJesus@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    Assange is a Russian cocksucker who considerably assisted Trump’s narrow success in 2016. Fuck him.

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      That’s all true, but his original arrest and prosecution was still a politically-motivated attack on freedom of speech.

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        Imagine falling for Assange’s bullshit so hard that you think he’s a free speech absolutely and not someone who leaked specific things for a specific purpose and that purpose was undermining democracy.

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          Oh, he’s a vindictive partisan hypocrite whose interest in “freedom of speech” is purely self-serving. But when it comes to precedents and principles, we don’t get to apply them selectively to people we like or dislike.

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            If I had that belief, I’d argue against the war machine then, rather than literally conspire to undermine a democracy by trying to sway public opinion in a dishonest way.

            Because those two things seem completely unrelated and one of them is really bad.

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        He was involved in obtaining docs from both the RNC and DNC, but for some reason only the DNC was leaked.

        Hmmmm, I wonder why

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          Also accused the Panama Papers of being a US hoax to discredit Great Leader Putin, and has refused to release major Russian leaks since 2010.

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            2010? Why would he risk his live again? No western country gave him any safety. What do you expect?

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        The Mueller Report says that (1) Assange admitted he was covertly working to get a Republican elected as president and (2) getting a substantial amount of (sometimes doctored) information from the Kremlin.

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          Remember: Two top level Russian hacking groups were in American DNC systems going all the way back to 2015.

          The two hacking groups also were in the American RNC networks since possibly before that time.

          One large group of information (DNC) was fully leaked through multiple channels.

          The other large group of information (RNC) was held back, kept secret, and was used/being used for other Kompromat and influence purposes.

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    Fuck 'em. He could have been a real whitehat but chose double agent instead. He picked his fate imho.

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      While I agree with the fuck him sentiment, the law should be used for justice, not to be vindictive.

      I agree with the proposition that information should be free. He was enabling that, even if he got used by one side, willingly or not. Heck, one third of America is conned into doing Russia’s purpose, whereas he was specifically targeted as an asset.

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        My true question is. Why focus on assange, who is an arse, when you can focus on Edward Snowden who is way more benevolent and is still wanted for treason because he whistleblown the fact the NSA was conducting internal surveillance

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            To be fair to Snowden, his post-leak behavior was more of a series of panicked mistakes (curiously at least in part on advice from… Assange) that reduced his options to ‘Russia’ or ‘jail’. He’s probably not a bad faith actor or a willing Russian stooge.

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              Cuba was right there, the US failed to kill Castro many many times, granted Snowden wouldn’t have had nearly the security as the leader of the country. But I somehow think the Cuban government would want to keep him safe to piss off the US, I guess he could be used there as a bargaining chip though so maybe I’m not the best spy

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                The US government probably has little interest in assassinating Snowden, honestly. “We can kill people in other places” isn’t really much of an example maker anymore, nor news to anyone. Now, trading him back to give him a hefty prison sentence as an example to other domestic whistleblowers? That’s probably much more in the cards.

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              I don’t see a difference between those things. When something that much larger than yourself is on the line you don’t get to make selfish choices like that without facing consequences.

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                Nah man, I’m not gonna put the same level of condemnation on a Russian cocksucker like Assanage as I would on Snowden for being unprepared and naive.

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    When you are on the side Greene maybe you should rethink your position. This man betrayed everything journalism stands for. He needs to be prosecuted very publicly. Large portions of this country still don’t understand what he did.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    A group of lawmakers including Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) called on President Biden to drop the extradition and prosecution of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.

    “As members of Congress deeply committed to the principles of free speech and freedom of the press, we write to strongly encourage your Administration to withdraw the U.S. extradition request currently pending against Australian publisher Julian Assange and halt all prosecutorial proceedings against him as soon as possible,” a letter dated Wednesday by the group reads.

    The unity of the far-right and far-left lawmakers in the letter is notable, as many in the group have traded barbs with each other during their time in Congress.

    In the same week as the letter regarding Assange, Greene was a leader in the effort to censure Tlaib for her recent anti-Israel statements.

    The WikiLeaks founder was arrested in 2019 in the U.K. on a U.S. warrant and has been fighting in British court to try and avoid being extradited to the U.S. to face charges.

    “Press freedom, civil liberty, and human rights groups have been emphatic that the charges against Mr. Assange pose a grave and unprecedented threat to everyday, constitutionally protected journalistic activity, and that a conviction would represent a landmark setback for the First Amendment,” that group wrote at the time.


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