Ireland’s data regulator confirmed to AFP that Meta has not paid any of the ₹2 billion ($2.2 billion) in fines issued since last September. TikTok also owes hundreds of millions.

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    It’s not like these companies are just refusing to pay their fines, as this article falsely implies. There are ongoing legal disputes. Most of Meta’s “unpaid” fines, for example, are from just six months ago and there are legitimate disagreements on them that are subject to appeal.

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      Hmm, with some lawsuits going years and years, seems like postponing decisions could save a lot because of the time value of money. Maybe one could make a law to account for a standard opportunity cost per industry to increase the fine amount from the date committed to the date paid.

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        Hmm, with some lawsuits going years and years, seems like postponing decisions could save a lot because of the time value of money.

        The specifics vary depending on exactly what is owed to whom and why, but in many of these cases the amount owed is subject to interest if, ultimately, it must be paid, or the money has actually already been provided but is held in escrow.

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      Of course, that’s understood, but what I wonder about is how would they enforce it? Does Ireland have the capabilities to block all of Meta’s IPs nationwide? If so, what about VPNs? Can they get Apple and Google to delist Meta for Irish citizens? Essentially, I’m wondering about the logistics of enforcement.

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        If they really wanted to, they could completely kick Meta and Google out of the country. They won’t do that, however, because it will be deeply unpopular with the electorate.

        They can do a lot in-between, however. They can, for example, halt all payments from resident accounts to Meta/Google

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      Hmm… I doubt the legitimacy of the legitimate disagreements. People and companies with power like to drag out legal disputes as long as possible, especially because they don’t want to set a bad precedent for later.

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        They should do what happens to parking fines here in Finland. If you want to dispute it you can, but you need to pay the original fine or you get interest and late fees added on. As far as I know if you win, you get the original fine returned, not the interest or fees.

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        In the Meta case from earlier this year, the Irish regulator that imposed the fines did not think it warranted fines at all but they were overruled by a European organization. When the national regulator who investigated the offenses disagrees with the punishment, I think we can at the very least consider it a legitimate subject of dispute.

        The article also says that Apple has fought for years against a 1.1 billion Euro fine in France. What the article leaves out is that Apple has been successful. Courts have already agreed with Apple and eliminated roughly 2/3 of that fine. Again, clearly there is a legitimate legal dispute over a fine if the legal system determines the regulators were, indeed, wrong.