• lemmydripzdotz123@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    This article just discusses another article that’s behind a paywall. It says the first type of person is goodwilled Republicans who want to believe Trump isn’t a terrible person so they believe / justify whatever is required to maintain that belief. Unless I missed it, it doesn’t discuss the second type of person. I presume it’s terrible people who believe Trump has done terrible things but they lie that because they’re terrible.

    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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      Imo… there’s 3 kinds of republicans.

      TrueBelievers™️ that have legitimately bought into that shit because they’re broke and desperate and stupid.

      Then there’s the assholes that hate all the same people he hates.

      Then there’s the assholes that are just using him for the tax breaks and the deregulation and because he lets them exploit the other two groups…. And everyone else…

      The only group actually listening is the first.

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          And then start crying about said violence when they get curb stomped. Because as it turns out: People fight back.

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          Waiting for him to say it again, anyway.

          Well, I guess there’s a subclass of them that doesn’t even bother waiting (see: recent domestic terrorism incidents outside of Jan 6)

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        A huge part of the american voting public views politics as a sport and they have their team ‘red’ or ‘blue’, and that is who they vote for. If they can express any reasons other than ‘my team’ for their vote, it is a regurgitation of talking points from their team’s propaganda system.

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    @YoBuckStopsHere There’s nothing picayune about the deep concerns reputable journalists are voicing.

    That word comes in play with regard to how so many of us have just turned our eyes away from the threat Trump and his supporters pose because we have to deal with navigating daily life being entwined with these people that in the end are our closest family and friends.

    Personally, I put a lot of blame for the US sitting on the fascist precipice as it is on the for-profit media that was so enamored of his f-list celebrity status that they couldn’t help themselves but divert actual political coverage in 2015 to covering this idiot.

    In following the spectacle of a candidate like Trump because it gets ratings, they elevated him to legitimacy in the eyes of the public, and gave a platform to the truly evil ideas he espouses.

    Sure, a lot of it is drunk Thanksgiving uncle bloviating - - but there aren’t any major “news” outlets covering uncle Bill’s every move and having panel discussions on what he has to say.

    It’s all on the media for helping create then elevate this monster, and articles like this trying to exculpate them from what they’ve done are at the bottom line infuriating and insulting.

    The media are absolutely incapable of taking responsibility for creating this mess.

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      Trump is the fruition of a 40+ year plan by the right to claw back power in the aftermath of the civil rights movement, sexual revolution, Roe v Wade, Stonewall Riots, and Watergate, along with neoliberal policies that enable regulatory capture and led to more political power for the rich than ever and massive collapses (dot com and 2008) leaving many people desperate and bitter and open to a populist authoritarian. The decades of attacks on education haven’t helped either.

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        The decades of attacks on education haven’t helped either.

        That’s also part of the plan. The proles can’t effectively participate in democracy or criticize established interests (the wealthy, the party, the church) if they’re not equipped with an education.

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      The media are absolutely incapable of taking responsibility for creating this mess.

      I fully believe that if the Japanese balloon bombing happened today, modern media outlets would ignore the government’s request to keep it quiet and put people’s lives at risk just to boost engagement.

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    1 year ago

    Title differs from article, neither includes “two types of people.” It’s about how Americans are justifying Trump’s overtly fascist rhetoric and he isn’t even pretending anymore.

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    Right now it’s not about how people want to vote, even. It’s just expressing that dissatisfaction with the current conditions. Once Trump is nominated in late March early April, then it becomes a choice between either this or that. Only his loyal Qultists are currently saying they’ll vote for him. The average voter is still living in this year, not next year. The media wants to steadily increase excitement to get those click $s

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    Between the increasingly picayune wranglings over the nature of Donald Trump’s gag orders and the cries by journalists desperate for people to take seriously the things he says on the campaign trail, it’s become ever more clear that America doesn’t so much have a “free speech” problem as it is profoundly suffering thanks to cost-free speech.

    What sort of laws curtailing free speech should we have to either prevent or punish the use of dangerous rhetoric?

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      Unbiased and truthful news. You want to call yourself news? There should be standards you abide by. You want to just entertain? It should be labeled.

      Remember, fox news fought and won the right to lie to the American people.

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      What sort of laws curtailing free speech should we have to either prevent or punish the use of dangerous rhetoric?

      Campaigns can’t advertise or have events until 45 days before an election.