• arin@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    We need more Bernie, really hope he has disciples or something. Man has decades of stamina fighting for the people

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      10 months ago

      I think his movement has traction with the younger generation. Hopefully it motivates them and they keep it going.

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          10 months ago

          ah yes, strike breaker AOC, truly an inspiring progressive :|

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            10 months ago

            Politics sucks. You can’t do everything. There’s also never going to be anyone that agrees with you 100% unless you run yourself, and even then your views change over time (hopefully).

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      10 months ago

      A lot of his political supporters and constantly shamed for supposedly helping Trump because we dare voice how terrible the Democrat party is, and are assumed to not understand how strategic voting works or that one party can be less bad.

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        10 months ago

        and are assumed to not understand how strategic voting works

        That would be a correct assumption. I’ve seen twice as much apathy come out of Bernie fans than Progress. This war is a good example. We can all disagree with how they go about what they are doing, but the idea that they should only be defending will lead to more attacks. If the US just increased airport security after 9/11 and didn’t go after Bin Laden, you better bet they’d send more. The answer isn’t doing that they are doing now, and it’s not doing nothing. Bernie might have the right idea in a ideal world, but in reality it’s not a great take and it makes other Democrats look bad that are having to make the difficult decisions which again spreads apathy. I don’t think there is a good solution to the problem without going back in time and not letting the West arbitrarily divide up the middle east and fuck everything up in the first place.

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          10 months ago

          The Bush government response after 9/11 increased radicalization, strengthened Al Qaeda, and decreased support for the US. It put us in more danger, in order to destabilize the Middle East, advance US imperialism, and line the pockets of international arms profiteers.

          The Netanyahu government response after 10/7 increased radicalization, strengthened Hamas, and decreased support for Israel. It put them in more danger, in order to destabilize the Middle East, advance US imperialism, and line the pockets of international arms profiteers.

          Maybe you’re correct that some action, other than strict defense, would be best, but that’s not on the table, here. In this context, the choice is between further funding the worst choice, or not doing that. What makes Democrats look bad is how many of them support further funding the worst case.