• Dagwood222@lemm.ee
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    Anyone who is mad about Biden should consider that Trump’s people are ready and willing to nuke the entire Middle East on the chance that it will start the Rapture.

    Half a loaf is better than getting shot.

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      Like, it’s not even a close call. And I’m still not seeing how biden’s actual record isn’t a factor. He’s done a pretty solid job with the resources he’s got. A good chunk of Congress is a terror cell at this point, the supreme Court is stacked with zealots appointed for life, and he’s still managed to get a lot of good stuff done.

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        He is still sending weapons to Israel. Run a non genocidal candidate if you want my help.

        Otherwise you will get nothing from me.

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          Oh yes. Trump will certainly not continue that.

          At some point you just have to accept that this will happen and you can’t change it. From that point, pick your best future.

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            I pick the one that will let me sleep best at night, and knowing I didn’t support genocide will let me sleep great.

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              But you did. You paid taxes and live in this country. Your lack of voting shows apathy, it doesn’t absolve complicity.

              If you really want to change it, you participate more, not less.

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              I think most people value aesthetics over pragmatism. If a car ran a red light most people would, in a philosophical sense, say, “Well they’re in the wrong.” and step out in front of the car. It’s better to be right than to do good because one of those things makes us feel good, while the other is just work.

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          That’s a pretty juvenile take. Not voting doesn’t mean you disapprove of both candidates. It means they are both equal (equally good or equally bad) to you.

          And if you think the two are equal because of one thing that they agree on (as bad as that thing is), you mean all the things they disagree on don’t matter (like peaceful transfer of power, lgbtq rights, fascism). And even on that one thing, the two have very different approaches, and one is far more inclined to change position in the future. But apparently that wouldn’t matter either, because they are both equal right now, because they both support Israel right now.

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            So they both support a genocide, seems like a grand reason to vote for neither.

            You don’t get a pity vote for not being as bad as the other guy it just means I won’t vote for him either.

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            Ok, better to lose than to directly and unequivocally support genocide.

            Did not everyone say it would be better for a Russian soldier to go to jail or just kill themselves instead of fighting Ukrainians?

            Why should they kill themselves and the rest of us just support a different kind of genocide?

            Is Palestinian skin a little too brown for our support?

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      Moving the baseline to “nukes” doesn’t invalidate legitimate concerns around Biden’s handling of events.

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          I agree.

          So anything done that is better than the worst President in victory should go unchallenged?

          We are Lemmings, aren’t we (in the debunked mythological running of a cliff sense)?

          There was a ceasefire, that was good. After instructing people not to call for one, it was helpful to see that.

          Biden would get my vote in a general. But we have to stop making the worst decision maker the baseline.

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            That is unfortunately less of a social phenomenon and more of a logical result of our combination two-party/first past the post system. After years of having to strategically vote against the worst option instead of for the best, we are only left with a “lesser of two evils” decision.

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        Of course. The comment was probably directed to the bots telling us we are genocidal if we don’t vote third party (thereby allowing Trump to take over and oh by the way nuke Gaza or whatever)