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Still the biggest proof that it was real, the Soviets would’ve called out on the bluff
I typically use this line but I don’t know that the Soviets had the technology to track the flight completely at the time or to verify the landing.
The Russians kicked our* asses all through the Space Race. I’m sure they could at least intercept comms and look through their telescopes.
Did you know that you can take a telescope and LOOK AT THE LANDING SITES ON THE MOON?
If you can afford the simple equipment necessary, you can literally send and receive a ping to a device left at one of the landing sites that proves without a doubt we have been there.
I’m not a radio engineer, but my understanding is you’re just bouncing signals off the moon itself, there isn’t a device that echos the signal back or anything. There are mirrors on the moon to reflect lasers back though.
They left a couple retro reflectors on the moon during the moon landings so we can bounce lasers off them to accurately measure the distance to the moon.
Couldn’t such device be delivered without people, like a remotely controlled rover? How does that prove that people made an actual landing on the Moon?
You are correct, it proves nothing. None of these things prove that people have been on the moon. Unless you want it to. Then anything is proof 😅
Yea shure you guys think that nasa was able to land something on the moon with either remote control or fully automated and then after a sucessfull landing of a unmanned craft deploy a mirror angled so you can bounce back laser but you also say that PEOPLE were never up there? What is even needed as proof for you people?
You’d need either the biggest space telescope ever that doesn’t yet exist, or a lunar orbiter. The latter is how other space agencies have taken pictures of the landing sites.
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Isn’t this because Hubble is actually made to look deep into space and not under its nose? I’m sorry, but I’m not watching a 14 minutes video for that.
I did a two minute internet search and every result says that the Hubble doesn’t have the angular resolution for this. It could resolve a football field on the moon, but not anything smaller.
It was made to look at nebulae and galaxies, and those are a lot bigger, even in apparent size.
Focal distance doesn’t matter when the aperture is so infinitesimally small compared to the distances. All space telescopes are focused to infinity no matter what they’re observing up there.
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don’t trust everything on the internet.
They’re right on this one. This picture here is pretty illuminating about the sizes of the views that Hubble captures:
Image source with additional reading. Zooming into an object a couple of meters in size on the surface of the Moon is in a completely different ballpark.
The greatest proof we have that the United States was the First Nation to land a man on the moon and did so in July of 1969 is that their primary geopolitical enemy had beaten them at every previous step in the space race and didn’t contest it. If there was a chance that any aspect of it was faked the USSR would’ve used it as propaganda and a cudgel. Instead they confirmed the moon landing. It may be hard for some people to believe we set foot on the moon, but it’s much harder to believe the ussr covered America’s ass on this one.
It’s actually the same basic evidence that we have that Yuri Gagarin was the first human to go into outer space alive and return alive. If it hadn’t happened the United States would’ve contested it.
Okay, just to go full conspiracy theorist on you for a second:
The USSR could’ve covered USA’s ass on this because their own achievements were fake too, and they didn’t want it to come out
I don’t have any evidence for this, nor do I believe it myself, but just playing devil’s advocate here
That doesnt work in the long term unless you kill everyone that knows about it. Its a weak plan at best.
Oh that’s definitely true, but that could be said for literally every conspiracy theory, ever.
My comment was working on the assumption that you already believe in conspiracy theories, and was meant to explain how one could then rationalize this particular one
Well assume I do and that was my response. I’m sure thats not all it takes to convince someone a conspiracy isn’t true.
How do conspiracy folk answer that counterpoint?
Apparently they say they did it with a super computer in 1969 that had less processing power than a watch today. Those old computers that used spools of tape. And now in 2024 we don’t have the technology to get “back” to the moon. Work that one out.
How can a rocket and thrusters work in space when there is no atmosphere to push against? The space ship/rocket would stay still and all the thrust matter would just be ejected. - For example, If the rocket wants to turn left, it is always shown as firing a thruster from the right side that turns the rocket/ship to the left. But in a vacuum all that would happen is the matter that came out of the thruster would be sucked into the vacuum and spread out evenly. The ship would not move. 🤔 Nothing to push against.
Edit: I see now (from the more helpful replies) That it is not the rocket pushing back, but rather the combusting expanding fuel that is pushing the rocket forward. Which makes sense to me now.
Google says thrusters are similar, in that it is expanding steam etc.
