• deegeese@sopuli.xyz
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    4 months ago

    Stereotypes aside, a bottle of cognac and chocolate cake is pretty good as far as office birthdays go.

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      4 months ago

      Yup.

      If someone got you a bottle of liquor you probably have drank with them or spoken about it… it’s not difficult to assume someone said oh he likes this lets get it for him. Further this is a pretty common brand and has a good chance of getting picked in general.

      The speed at which people assume the worst and get offended recently needs to get dialed back… a lot. If I wanted to slight a dude I wouldn’t spend money to do it.

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        4 months ago

        Your entire argument depends on the fact that this dude Hennessy with his co-workers or talked about.

        A fact which (as far as I can tell) you just made up.

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          4 months ago

          That’s sort of the point. There is minimal context on the image so we are left to extrapolate from what we can see.

          I see a nice office setting with a fairly dressed down couple of people who seem reasonably at ease in the space. It is a chocolate cake which is the typical go-to in most situations and appears to be store bought. Depending on where you live you can get liquor in the store or at a small store nearby. Some of the largest displays and most well known brands are Makers, Crown, and Hennessy. These are typically larger displays where even if you knew nothing about liquor you could probably pick one of those 3… and of those crown comes in packaging which would be a pain to take apart if you were just looking for a quick better than a birthday card gift.

          …So assuming they knew fuck all about him there’s still a coin flip it would have been Hennessy. As far as the cake goes probably better than 60-70%. So hanlons razor: did someone just blow 70 bucks for a cake and booze to take a cheap shot at the guy? I doubt it.

          I’ve worked in a lot of offices and I can tell you most people won’t go out of their way to get you a gift on your birthday outside of maybe a gift card from a boss. I see no malice here. Am I making assumptions? Sure. It’s an image and I provided my take on it. What was yours again?

          • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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            4 months ago

            I’m looking at the text associated with the image and see two possible scenarios.

            The one that you describe where the co-workers are being nice and the black guy is being an asshole for complaining about it.

            Or the other scenario where the black dude’s co-workers are making assumptions about the dude based on stereotypes. In which case the black dude is rightfully bothered by this and the co-workers are making ignorant assumptions based on race.

            And I see you making further ignorant assumptions and assuming the scenario that the black dude is being an asshole is the correct one without really considering the image and the text we’re discussing at face value could actually be accurate. You’re preferring a made up scenario which implies the black dude is being dishonest, rather than the scenario as presented.

            We can’t know which scenario is true. But we do know which assumptions you prefer, and your assumptions says something about you. You preference is for scenarios which assume black people are dishonest.

            Try to be a better person.

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          4 months ago

          Yes, that is how hypotheticals work. It’s how we imagine things we don’t know specific details about and try and find ways to explain them.

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            4 months ago

            Hypothetically, someone that assumes a black person to be dishonest based on no evidence is a racist.

            To make this less hypothetical, are you assuming the black dude is dishonest or not? Just want to know who’s a hypothetical racist and who’s an actual racists here.

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              4 months ago

              Let’s nip this in the bud here. If I like hotdogs do I automatically hate hamburgers?

              Why is it you are on such a crusade to paint someone as a racist simply for making a moderate statement? This isn’t a binary thing.

              Further what makes what you are doing morally any better than what you are assuming the gift buyers to be doing?

              You are entirely too wrapped up in this and it’s not a good look, man.

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              4 months ago

              I’m assuming the black dude is making a joke about all the hypersensitive people on the internet.

              Something you make a good example of.

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          4 months ago

          Wikipedia page

          Hennessy has a long-standing relationship with African American culture, especially hip hop. It has been described as “synonymous with rap music and African Americans, who are the brand’s major consumers and advocates”. While music, especially the 2004 2Pac song “Hennessy” has been credited with popularising the drink, some historians have pointed to a much older relationship, which began when African American servicemen encountered cognac in France during World War I and World War II.

          Hennessy has actively pursued this consumer group for decades. It targeted minority audiences as early as the 1950s, when it placed advertisements in African American magazines like Ebony and Jet, used African American models, and hired African American employees. By some estimates more than two thirds of Hennessy sold in the United States is consumed by African Americans. It is sometimes referred to as “Henny”.

          Hennessy appears frequently in the lyrics of popular music, and by one estimate the words “Hennessy” or “cognac” are referenced in more than 1,000 songs.

          • hendrik@palaver.p3x.de
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            4 months ago

            So French Cognac from the actual city of Cognac…

            How does it taste? I mean stereotypes aside… Is it good? Maybe they can turn a blind eye if it’s really nice booze.

            • cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world
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              4 months ago

              I enjoy it - it’s smoother and sweeter and and with a different fruitier flavor than whiskey while packing the same punch.

              I own a bottle and sometimes sip on it or include it as an ingredient in a mixed drink or cooked meal.

              I’d recommend trying it at least once if you already enjoy liquor

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                  4 months ago

                  Hennessy is to cognac what Smirnoff is to vodka, there are far, far better cognacs.

                  Look for the different grades - XO is the best one, apart from XXO but I’ve only seen that once

                  Special mention for Armagnac, you get some superb brands of that, all better than Hennessey