• SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    If you’re just now deciding you want to flee, you’ve already chosen your battles.

    This war has been going on for 1,5 years, but now that the drones are circling Moscow you’re suddenly making an issue, whilst being quiet while Ukrainians were killed by kamikaze drones? Quite hypocritical.

    • I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Average citizens aren’t going to leave their family homes because their government is waging war on innocent people. I, personally, did not leave the US while we bombed the shit out of several undeserving countries. If those countries had managed to start bombing California with any efficacy, I would probably try to leave.

      • jarfil@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        On the other side of the border…

        “Average citizens have been forced to leave their family homes because that same government is waging war on innocent people.”

        Sure, you can stay until it impacts you personally… but don’t expect anyone whom your country was calling an “enemy”, to take you in just like that.

      • ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        If those countries had managed to start bombing California with any efficacy, I would probably try to leave.

        Would you be actually trying to leave, keeping your head down and preparing to go in the quietest way so that your government couldn’t stop you? Or would you be spending your time writing posts online crying because the countries your country had attacked were limiting your free movement across the border, and setting some reasonable boundaries on your behavior?

        Would you be insisting on the red carpet and complaining that you could not bring this or that? Or would you be humbled by your circumstances and grateful that you actually could cross a border, like so many who were bombed by your country could not?

        Would you understand that as a citizen of an aggressor country other countries have every right to limit your entry, your imported goods, and your behavior? Or would you quietly take advantage of your immense privilege of being able to leave a war zone, glad that you made it out alive?

        There’s a big, big difference between people crossing war zone borders as homeless, stateless refugees and those doing it to turn a profit and come back home.

    • vlad@lemmy.sdf.org
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      1 year ago

      I think that’s a very flawed way to look at this. Just because it’s been 1.5 years doesn’t mean that every person living inside a series of imaginary lines on a map is responsible for the minority that is in charge of that shaded map regeon. By that logic, you’re at fault for whatever your government has done since you’ve become a legal adult. If you are one.

      Putin took power when most of the people fighting in this war were small children. There’s not been a real election since.