• umbrella@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    are they socialist? if they arent then good luck winning people back with a fundamental misunderstanding of whats wrong.

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      3 months ago

      They were in favour of UBI here, apart from that no afaik. They are also in favour of establishing a lobbyist registry for more transperency in national politics, which I quite liked.

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      3 months ago

      Wikipedia says center/center-left. But I’ve met a Volt member, and they were very neo-liberal.

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        3 months ago

        “center” usually comes to mean “right” these days yeah

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      3 months ago

      I mean, most people aren’t socialists. In Europe there’s usually a hard left option already, and it gets fairly few votes.

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          3 months ago

          Should I pick a European hard-left party and post it’s actual seat count, or is that irrelevant to the point you’re trying to make?

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              Ah, by “socialism” you mean, like, Norway. On Lemmy people usually mean the USSR when they say that. I think OP meant socialist like the USSR.

              Most of the Volt platforms I’ve looked at are pretty pro-welfare.

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                  I mean, the actual historical definition of socialism is “collective ownership of the means of production”, and the actual historical definition of communism is “a classless, stateless society that will inevitably follow capitalism, according to Marx”. The USSR only ever claimed to be working towards communism, and referred to themselves as “socialist”.

                  Nowadays the words can mean something different, depending on who uses them.