Green politicians from across Europe on Friday called on U.S. Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein to withdraw from the race for the White House and endorse Democrat Kamala Harris instead.

“We are clear that Kamala Harris is the only candidate who can block Donald Trump and his anti-democratic, authoritarian policies from the White House,” Green parties from countries including Germany, France, Denmark, Italy, the Netherlands, Ireland, Estonia, Belgium, Spain, Poland and Ukraine said in a statement, which was shared with POLITICO ahead of publication

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              Okay, then prove that something happened. I’m not the one implying she’s some sort of Russian asset with 0 evidence beyond a photo. That’s you.

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                I don’t have to prove anything happened. She was put at a dinner table with Putin in Moscow. Something that only happens if Putin finds you useful. He doesn’t sit at random tables and strike up conversations with whoever he finds.

                You put the rest together.

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                  Your evidence for Jill Stein being bribed by Putin in her sitting next to a German ambassador at a table, and Putin sitting down in a seat at the other side of the table?

                  The Democrat misinformation campaign is in full swing here.

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                    I said nothing about bribery.

                    Why are you making up lies about me?

                    Also, pretending that Putin and his cronies just sat down at a random table where Jill Stein happened to be sitting is silly and I think you know that.

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                  You made the assertion, so the onus is on you to prove it.

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                    I did in my previous comment. You just don’t like the fact that you are only put at a table with the extremely calculating dictator of Russia unless he has good reason for you to be there.

                    And if you expect me to prove that about Putin, you’re just a troll.

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              You don’t get put at a dinner table in Moscow with Putin unless Putin has a good reason for wanting you there.

              He doesn’t just sit down with random people and hope they have a good time.

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                  That’s basically what this person seems to be suggesting. Like she just happened to be sitting there and Putin and all of his closest people were like, “let’s go see who this lady is and what she’s up to!”

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                    Except it’s not what I’m suggesting at all. I haven’t suggested anything. I’ve posted what Stein has said happened, which she says was a dinner at a RT anniversary gala where Putin only briefly sat at their table, no introductions were made, and no English-Russian conversations happened. If you have evidence of something else happening there, as you seem to be suggesting, then provide it.

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              Well, sure. I’m not saying that Russians didn’t have a nefarious reason to invite her there. It’s entirely possible and maybe even likely that they did it because they saw a third party candidate as a useful tool to sow some sort of election discord in the US. But that claim would be entirely different than the claim that Jill Stein did it because she’s an asset or that this was her idea or purpose for being there. I’m disputing the latter, not the former, because her attending a gala for RT is not evidence of collusion and this was the implication being made. I can find all sorts of pictures online of Hillary Clinton and other politicians having dinners with Trump or Putin, but that doesn’t mean the photos are evidence that they were in collusion with either of them.

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                I like how you are completely overlooking the fact that I never made any actual claim about her being a Russian asset.

                You kept bringing up the asset thing.

                This is what I wrote:

                The asset part was a complete invention of yours.

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            Of course she says nothing happened. It’s like a child getting caught with their hand in the cookie jar covered in crumbs, and they will insist they did nothing wrong. Never expect someone to be honest when it’s against their interests.

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          meanwhile in the same universe. the cheney are as big of criminals as putin.

          doesn’t bill clinton has photos with Epstein ? its not like she is hugging him like biden hugging netanyahu. maybe he was there to poison her ?

          anyway people voting for her including me will write aoc rather than voting harris if there was no third option allowed. enough is enough.

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            anyway people voting for her including me will write aoc rather than voting harris.

            Oh boy, you’ll really be sticking it to The Man with that. You’re truly an important visionary, and everyone is totally taking you seriously.

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              What’s fun is that it’s literally impossible to write in AOC in Indiana because you have to declare yourself a write-in candidate here and she didn’t.

              I had four options- Harris, Trump, RFK Jr. or the Libertarian.

              And I keep asking people like this who I should have voted for and who other Hoosiers have voted for. The closest answer I’ve gotten from any of them was a sudden heel-turn to “vote for who you like, it doesn’t matter.”

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            as big of criminals as putin

            Hang on, let me just dig up their rap sheet on war crimes… oh, wait

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            I forgot to ask you!

            These are the four options in Indiana. No write-ins because you have to declare yourself a write-in and no one did. Who should Hoosiers vote for?

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              vote for the candidate that best fulfills your expectations as a president. i am against voting just for the lesser evil. there has to be a minimum requirement for whats acceptable else we are begging this corrupt system to shit on us as much as they want. here most of us are struggling to make ends meet and they are giving billions to murder poor people in other countries. and don’t stop there. boycott all brands involved in lobbying or supporting genocide, boycott any candidates taking superpac funding. boycott msm peddling bullshit while ignoring the real issues.

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                Unfortunately, USA doesn’t have ranked choice voting. So voting for someone who doesn’t have a chance of winning is basically the same as throwing away your vote.

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                Months and months of “don’t vote for Biden” and then “don’t vote for Harris” and then suddenly when the people like you who have been saying that are presented with the harsh reality that choices really are limited, are saying “vote for who you want.”

                Amazing.

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                  vote for the candidate that best fulfills your expectations as a president. i am against voting just for the lesser evil.

                  what part of it you don’t get ?

                  harsh reality of what ? that we have to vote just blue unconditionally ? cool live in this delusion, but those fed up with dnc impostering are only going to become more determined with this current toxic campaign. the only thing other than “trump this stein that” we get from them is launching video games or snl shithousery.

                  so again vote for the candidate that worthy of presidency else we are only lowering the bar each election and soon will have someone worse than trump forced on us by dnc.

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                    You left out this part:

                    Months and months of “don’t vote for Biden” and then “don’t vote for Harris”

                    I wonder why?