• LovableSidekick@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    There’s one thing I really don’t understand. And this question has no agenda except that I would like to. Also if I use the word “he” inappropriately, please for the sake of the question let that slide…

    Say a woman transitions to a man. He’s a man now, right? So why is it necessary that he be called trans and someone who was born a man be called cis? I mean if the goal is equality, and it should be, why should we know or care which is the case? And the same question goes for cis/trans women.

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      most of the times the difference between me and a cis man is not important, so i simply say i’m a man. Sometimes the difference is important, and then i clarify i’m a trans man

      90% of the time and most people i meet will have no idea i’m transgender, the other 10 are doctors, people i want to have sex with, and those i’ve talked with about trans experiences

    • duckythescientist@sh.itjust.works
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      Using the cis/trans labels are good when the experiences are different in some important way or it’s worth pointing out for some reason. Often it’s just better to refer to both cis and trans men as just “men” and cis and trans women as just “women”. It depends on the context. These online forums tend to be rather political or tied to identity in a way that a lot of more real life conversations won’t be. The cis and trans labels can probably be left off more often in real life than you see them used here.

    • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      3 days ago

      It’s just useful terminology. It comes up when it comes up.

      I don’t spend much time calling my girl friends trans-her, if that’s what you’re asking.

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      2 days ago

      good question! You used the correct pronoun. Even more correct: that man was Assigned Female At Birth. He was always a man. You’re right, the point is exactly that it shouldn’t matter, just like bi/homo/hetero, or nonbinary/female/male. But as long as rightists unfortunately make it matter, we need to talk about it.

    • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org
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      3 days ago

      Well I would assume trans-men are smarted and don’t really need another guy to tell them. But then trans people like Caitlyn Jenner exist and she is dumb as shit. She has got to be the single most hated trans person ever.