• Flax@feddit.uk
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    1 day ago

    Whenever the israelis bomb the buildings, they don’t know for certain there are kids in there. They are just theoretical kids in the moment to them.

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      1 day ago

      More like, Schrodinger’s kids. I genuinely hope you find peace and learn to not let being pro-birth justify letting others suffer and/or die. Red tape and bans kill when it comes to healthcare, without solving anything.

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        23 hours ago

        A successful abortion always has at least a 100% fatality rate.

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          14 hours ago

          Why does that matter? If the fetus cannot survive outside the womb due to genetic defects, why would I care about that when I could care about the health of the mother?

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            4 hours ago

            If you are absolutely certain the foetus cannot survive, and carrying it to term will give the mother a high probability of dying after giving birth due to physical complications, then an abortion is a valid medical procedure. However, this accounts for less than one percent of abortions, so unless we are arguing against that, it’s not a valid talking point.

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          23 hours ago

          Oh, so the mother’s die every time?

          Even under your bad definition it’d be only 50-60% (accounting for the fact that some mothers do die)

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              21 hours ago

              You can’t have a higher than 100% death rate, that means more people died than were involved in what happened

              By reasonable definition that’s 1 death: the mother

              By your own poor definition it’s 2: mother and fetus

              So where are we getting extra from?

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                5 hours ago

                The fundamental core issue is: do we count the foetus as a life? If so, there’s no such thing as a “safe abortion”

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                  5 hours ago

                  We do not, simple as, because it’s not

                  That wouldn’t magically change the death rate, though, which was my point, don’t change the subject. If you’re not smart enough to understand basic math I’m not sure we should even pretend to respect your opinions on things more complicated than that, like basic science

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                    4 hours ago

                    Science points to a foetus being a life- whether or not we value that life is a philosophical, moral and ethical issue. Biological, Physical and Chemical science isn’t the answer to everything.